Sukshma Baba’s followers are unknowingly Jnanis?
Sukshma Baba tells his followers
that 'knowingly
or unknowingly' they are gyaanis (which means Self Realised beings):
Finally, there are people who are gyaanis, who know that the Lord is all compassionate, who is all Divine, who is all Love. They only come to enjoy that Divinity, that Love, that compassion of the Lord. They only come to experience the Lord’s Love. They have nothing to expect or give. Knowingly or unknowingly, most of you are in that 4th category of people who have come only to experience the Love of the Lord, and have no ulterior motives or desires behind your coming here. That is what you all are here.
Madhusudan Naidu, Kodaikanal, May 19,
2014
But
did Swami say a jnani (or gyaani) is one who experiences the
love of the Lord? What
is the meaning of jnani according to Swami?
Jnana in Vedantic parlance has been defined as "Advaita Darsanam" (recognising the One without a second). That is to see the One in the many Unity in diversity. Here in this assembly are present many thousands of persons. Their names and forms are multifarious. But you have to recognise that the Atma Principle in all of them is one and the same. It is not enough to say this in words. You must make it a living experience. Only then can one experience enduring Ananda (bliss). Such a person alone can be called a Jnani (a Knower of the Supreme).
SSS 22.30: October 4, 1989, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume22/sss22-30.pdf
It is only a person who perceives the Lord in all beings that deserves to be called a Jnani. Instead, if others name themselves as Jnanis, they are so only in name. They have no genuine experience of Jnana.
Geetha Vahini p. 60, http://www.sssbpt.info/vahinis/Gita/GitaVahiniInteractive.pdf
It is enough
if the mind is always fixed on paramâtmâ, if the Lord is meditated upon
without break. That will cleanse the mind; the delusion clogging it will
disappear. This by itself comprises moksha, for what is moksha but moha-kshaya, the decline of delusion? A person who has achieved this moha-kshaya will attain brahmathva, the stage of brahman,
howsoever he might die. Such a person is called a jñâni.
Geetha Vahini p. 81, http://www.sssbpt.info/vahinis/Gita/GitaVahiniInteractive.pdf
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1. SUMMARY
Madhusudan Naidu says that knowingly or unknowingly those who are with
him are gyaanis (knowers of God) who have come to him to experience the love
of the Lord.
2. Sri Sathya Sai Baba did not apply the term jnani (also spelled
gyaani) to His devotees because He said only those who experience the one
Atma in all can be called jnanis.
QUESTIONS
1. Since a jnani is one with the Atma or Consciousness in all, how can
one unknowingly be a jnani?
2. If Madhusudan Naidu is in communication with Sri Sathya Sai Baba
then why is there a difference between Madhusudan's understanding of a jnani
and Sri Sathya Sai Baba’s description of a jnani?
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Money and property
When Sri Sathya Sai Baba built schools, hospitals and water projects, He
did not found engineering or building companies to design and construct them. Yet
Madhusudan Naidu has founded 'Lotus Energy Solutions', a solar and sustainable
energy company, which is now putting solar energy into all of their schools,
hospitals and service projects.
Apart from providing clean drinking water (Vaari) to the needy, Swami has also taken up the task of providing clean energy (Vidyuth). He has willed the creation of a firm called Lotus Energy Solutions through which He is establishing small-scale solar power plants at various regions with the goal of self-sufficiency in terms of energy.
Swami in subtle form FAQ,
p.4
Madhusudan Naidu is also noted on the Lotus Energy website as ‘Director
– Strategy’.
What did Sri Sathya Sai Baba say about this model of setting up
companies for service projects?
In fact, Education, Medical and Water Supply projects undertaken by the Sathya Sai Organisation are not revenue earning departments.
There are some people who are doing business in the Name of Sai. They are cheating others, pretending to be devotees of Sai. I do not approve of such behaviour. They are not devotees at all. They are going to different parts of the country and also abroad to make money in the name of Sai. It is a big crime. I do not ask for even a single paisa from others. I never approve of such business. Whoever it may be, if somebody approaches you with such a crass motive, tell him to get out at once. Do not allow business to enter the field of spirituality.
SSS 35.11: 22 July, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
Swami's attitude to property
Madhusudan
Naidu speaks at length about acquiring the property at Kodaikanal and the fact
that it is coming back to him. He has also directed that there be extensive
building programmes started at Muddenahalli and at sites around the world:
Gerald
Dominick (Sai Surya) wrote on January 18, 2015:
The next speaker was Anthony Tan who is a notary from Singapore. It seems that for many years that Singapore devotees have been united in their support for Sathya Sai Baba projects. They consider it a great honour and privilege to do anything for Sathya Sai.
On the 23rd of November 2014, delegates from Singapore met with Sukshma Baba.
They were told that he wanted to build an auditorium that must be constructed and built by 90th birthday. They immediately agreed. They are grateful to Swami for giving them the opportunity to do this seva. They agreed to do both the prayer hall auditorium and the canteen.
Email from Gerald Dominick (Sai
Surya), January 18, 2015
What did Sri Sathya Sai Baba say about His involvement in
property?
At a meeting of the Central Trust yesterday, I told the members including Sri Indulal Shah, that I had no interest in property. Do not involve me in any connection with these properties. I do not wish to have any connection with money or property. My only concern is with my devotees. Telling them all this, I signed the papers.
SSS 31.1: January 1, 1998, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume31/sss31-01.pdf
Swami does not require any shrines. Swami is not
interested in real estate. All that Swami wants is you should serve the society
with bliss and without selfishness.
SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
Remember, Sai does not live in structures of stone or brick and mortar! He lives in soft hearts, warm with sympathy and fragrant with universal love.
SSS 2.27: December 2, 1961, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume02/sss02-27.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. When Sri Sathya Sai Baba built schools, hospitals and water
projects, He did not found engineering or building companies to design and
construct them.
2. Madhusudan Naidu has founded 'Lotus Energy Solutions', a solar and
sustainable energy company, which is now putting solar energy into all of
their schools, hospitals and service projects.
3. Madhusudan Naidu is also noted on the
Lotus Energy Solutions website as ‘Director – Strategy’.
4. Sri Sathya Sai Baba says "There are some people who are
doing business in the Name of Sai. They are cheating others, pretending to be
devotees of Sai. I do not approve of such behaviour. They are not devotees at
all. They are going to different
parts of the country and also abroad to make money in the name of Sai. It is
a big crime. I do not ask for even a single paisa from others. I never
approve of such business". (SSS 35.11)
5. Madhusudan Naidu told the Singaporean
devotees that he wants a big auditorium built by the time of the 90th
birthday.
6. Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that He had
no interest in property and did not want to have any connection with money
and property. (SSS 31.1).
QUESTIONS
1. There is no shortage of solar energy
companies in India. Why then does Madhusudan Naidu need a company in order to
do selfless service?
2. When service is performed by a company
earning profits, can it truly be considered to be selfless service?
3. If Madhusudan Naidu is following the
instructions of Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why is there such a different approach
to that adopted by Sri Sathya Sai Baba?
4. If
Madhusudan Naidu is in communication with Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why do his
attitudes to property differ from the attitude that Swami showed to property?
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Building new temples and ashrams
Madhusudan Naidu has begun encouraging people to build new
temples and ashrams for Sukshma Baba
all over the world:
So, I want to build an ashram here and you have to be
prepared for the ashram. I have a plan. You will find a beautiful place on the
hill, higher than other places around, and there will be build this ashram.
Madhusudan Naidu, Croatia, April 21,
2015 http://bhajanmusic.info/sukshma-baba-information/JULY-2015-WORLD-QA-ENGLISH#QA005
I bless that this place will grow in the future into a
great spiritual centre for the entire country. It will grow into a very big
ashram in times to come, and people from all around the country will come here
to seek spiritual solace… Start working on building a bhajan temple
here, and many rooms for devotees to stay, to come together and have satsang and spiritual workshops. Within a
year, there will be significant progress. When Swami comes back next year,
there will be a hall here to receive Him, and not this tent. From that root,
the tree and all the branches will grow, and when I return as the next Physical
Avatar, I will definitely make this My home in Italy.
Madhusudan Naidu, Italy, April 19,
2015
In Singapore there is unity. They are building a new mandir.
Email from Gerald Dominick (Sai
Surya), January 18, 2015
Many exciting events are happening. At Muddenahalli, bhajans and discourses will now be held at Prem Deep until the new mandir/auditorium is finished. Sai Anandam will be made into a Temple.
Email from Gerald Dominick (Sai Surya), April 24, 2015
Among the places He visited, Swami also blessed with His Divine Presence the shrine built in His name at Pascarosa (Cisternino). Years ago, He had instructed a devotee to begin a small temple there for Him. During this visit, Bhagawan said the temple would grow to become an important place of spiritual power and pilgrimage for people from all over the world. He also said He would visit the holy shrine every year in His Subtle Form, and even in future, in the form of Prema Sai Baba.
Divine Visit to Italy pamphlet, April 2015
He gathered 8 devotees for the evening interview and asked that I sit on the chair next to Him. Then He gave us the task and very clear instructions for building an ashram which will be called Ananda.
We are not to worry about money, that is His concern. The Ashram will be a large spiritual centre for Europe.
Visit to Croatia, April 22, 2015, p.5
When the time is right, I will personally tell you about the ashram. It is not so close, it is far away. It will be a big place in the village. There will be a 100 acre ashram. That will be one ashram for the eastern side of the world. Where people will come from all over the world, from Japan, from Singapore and that ashram will be here in Malaysia. I will build that, there is time for it.
'Master's Divine Command', Kuala Lumpur, March 13,
2015
But did Sathya Sai Baba ever say He wanted
mandirs to be built for Him?
Attempts are being made in many places to build Sathya Sai Mandirs (halls of worship). But Sathya Sai will be happy if He is installed in your hearts; that is the Mandir I like, not those. When you seek to build that other Mandir, you have to go about seeking donations. Religion has declined in this land due to this donation-seeking and donation-granting. Really speaking, the most precious donation is a pure mind; give that to the organisation and it will shine.
SSS 7.18: April 21, 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-18.pdf
Emphasise simplicity and sincerity, more than pomp and show. Make the mind, the shrine. Have mind'irs, not mandirs! Discourage the building of mandirs and halls; try to utilise the temples and halls that already exist. Let the temples that are fast being depleted of pilgrims become once again centres of spiritual vibration. Decorations and detonations tend to draw the mind away from the essential; people indulge in these things more to show themselves off and impress their importance on the public. During the festivals and celebrations, or even in daily life, people should not indulge in exhibitionistic display. If money comes into the picture, it becomes ugly and low.
SSS 11.16: March 8, 1971, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume11/sss11-16.pdf
Swami does not require any shrines. Swami is not
interested in real estate. All that Swami wants is you should serve society
with bliss and without selfishness.
Embodiments of Love! Develop love in you.
Bhagawan needs no temples or rest houses. The temple of your heart is more than
enough. Bhagawan shall stay happily therein.
The news that I get from those so-called temples is
highly distressing to Me. The amount of anguish that I undergo because of these
is beyond your imagination.
SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu is actively encouraging devotees to build temples
and ashrams for him all around the world.
2. Swami said repeatedly that He does not need any mandir, that He is
not interested in real estate and that the temple of our hearts is quite
enough for Him. He also said that "the news that I get from those
so-called temples is highly distressing to Me. The amount of anguish that I
undergo because of these is beyond your imagination" (SSS 35.11).
QUESTIONS
1. If Madhusudan Naidu is in communication with Swami, why then would
he encourage the building of ashrams and temples to Swami?
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Swami's attitude to money
Sukshma Baba asking for donations by his own admission
Madhusudan Naidu’s supporters deny that he
collects donations from devotees, however in the first talk, given on 13 May
2014 'Sukshma Baba' admits that he asked the above mentioned Dr Ram Shetty for money:
When Bhagawan mentioned to Dr. Ram Shetty that, “I need a
little help from you to continue my hospital.” Do you know what he said? He
said, “Swami, you tell me, shall I sell my house and give it to You?”
Madhusudan Naidu, Kodaikanal, May 13, 2014
Madhusudan Naidu (as Sukshma Baba) directly asking a
devotee for donations is completely different to Sri Sathya Sai Baba’s own principle
with regard to money:
I have not stretched My hand before anyone till date for any kind of help. If there is anyone in this vast concourse of devotees in this hall whom I had approached for money, they may rise and point out to Me. There is none, surely. Whatever I need in My Avataric Mission comes from within only.
SSS 41.18: November 23, 2008, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume41/sss41-18.pdf
“There are some people who are doing business in the Name of Sai. They are cheating others, pretending to be devotees of Sai. I do not approve of such behaviour. They are not devotees at all. They are going to different parts of the country and also abroad to make money in the name of Sai. It is a big crime. I do not ask for even a single paisa from others. I never approve of such business. Whoever it may be, if somebody approaches you with such a crass motive, tell him to get out at once. Do not allow business to enter the field of spirituality.”
SSS 35.11: 22 July, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
Madhusudan Naidu claims later in the same speech that Sri Sathya Sai
Baba asked Tigrett to sell the Hard Rock Café and give Swami the money for the
building of the Super Specialty Hospital:
Tigrett is here, who was also a young boy who started with a lot of enthusiasm to serve society. Business happened by and by. You all may not know because all of you may not have been there when he was running his businesses. He is here today because Swami called him and told him one thing, “I want to build a Super Speciality Hospital in Puttaparthy. What can you do for Me?” And Tigrett said, “Whatever you say, Swami.” And Swami said, “Sell your business, and we will use the money to build the hospital.” And within a week he returned back and did whatever was required to bring whatever Swami needed to Puttaparthi.
Madhusudan Naidu, Kodaikanal, May 13, 2014
Madhusudan contradicts both Sathya Sai Baba and Isaac Tigrett.
In this account, Madhusudan Naidu claims that Sri Sathya Sai Baba asked
Tigrett for money to build the hospital, however at the discourse where Swami
announced that the hospital would be built, He said:
The advent [of this Avatar] took place sixty four years ago. All these years, this hand has not stretched at any time to seek anything from anyone. I have not asked anyone. I will never ask anyone and there will never be an occasion for it.
SSS 23.34: November 23, 1990, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume23/sss23-34.pdf
Madhusudan Naidu’s words also contradict what Isaac Tigrett himself said
in a talk at the annual Pennsylvania Retreat in 1992, only months after the
hospital opened. Isaac explained that he sold the Hard Rock Café chain and then
took the money and offered it to Swami. Isaac also reiterates emphatically that
Swami didn't ask for the money:
"Swami brought someone, just in the nick of time, because I was near death and exhaustion from expanding my business all over the world, who offered me too much money for it. And I consider it to be a sign from God .... and sold the Hard Rock Cafe ....
I went to him and said , "Swami, I have this money .... ".... " I know , I know , I know " .... you know .... and he said , "We are going to build a hospital ".... "so what do you want me to do with it ?" .... He said , "We'll build a hospital" .... I said ,"great."
I want to say one word about this Sai Baba and money business . Because everybody says that ," .... Sai doesn't take any money .... ". Sai needs nothing . He blessed me by allowing me to give him some money. He didn't ask for it. He arranged it".
In his talk in Singapore on 16 July 2007, Isaac also spoke about the struggle
he went through before taking the money to offer to Swami:
I was in my room in the ashram when trying to see Baba. I wanted to give him my cheque but something seemed to stop me. I walked over there to the mandir but then started to sweat. I couldn’t move. I didn’t know what was going on with me. It was as if I was being physically manipulated. I walked back to my room and I thought. Why Why? What’s wrong? What am I doing wrong? In giving the cheque for the hospital, is it giving me some sort of an ego trip? Is this like, “I” am doing a good thing? A generous guy? Then if finally dawned on me, “Don’t do this for you. There is no you. Only us.” And I realized what I wanted to say, believe, and how and why, I had to offer this gift of money as service.
As soon as I got the message straight in my head. Sai Baba let me walk right into that interview room and I said, “Swami, this is a gift for you to do whatever you wish with. And it is from all of us. It is especially from all the ones who would like to give it, but don’t have it to give, they just have their love. We love you. We adore you. We want to help you. This is from all of us.”
In
the talk on 16 May 2014 Madhusudan again praises Tigrett for giving money:
Swami said "Tigrett I have a wish to build a super speciality hospital in Puttaparthi". First he did not believe what I was saying. I also told him that "As I have announced I want to build it in one year"…Do you know how much he had given for the Super Speciality Hospital? He may not like it if I tell, but in those days, it is today's equivalent of Rs 100 crores. That is what he had given for the first Super Speciality Hospital."
Madhusudan Naidu, Kodaikanal, May 16, 2014
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu says that he asked Dr Ram Shetty “I need a
little help from you to continue my hospital.” He also claims that Sri Sathya
Sai Baba directly asked Isaac Tigrett to sell his business and give him the
money from the sale so he could build the Super Specialty Hospital in
Puttaparthi. This contradicts Swami’s own words as well as Isaac Tigrett's
own account from 1992, just months after the hospital was opened.
2. Sri Sathya Sai Baba says "I
have not stretched My hand before anyone till date for any kind of
help." (SSS41.18). The advent [of this Avatar] took place sixty four
years ago. All these years, this hand has not stretched at any time to seek
anything from anyone. I have not asked anyone. I will never ask anyone and
there will never be an occasion for it." (SSS 23.24).
QUESTIONS
1. Sri Sathya Sai Baba affirmed on
many occasions that He had never and would never ask anyone for money. Why
then would Madhusudan Naidu ask Dr Ram Shetty for money?
2. Why would he
also claim Swami had asked Tigrett for money for the Super Specialty
Hospital?
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Did Swami publicly praise those who gave land or money?
In the first talk, given on 13 May 2014, Madhusudan Naidu as
Sukshma Baba praises Sri B N Narasimhamurthi, Isaac Tigrett, C Srinivas and
Srinivas' friend, Kishore, for donating money or land to his cause. He says:
Because of his wish to have an educational institution, today we all know that Narasimhamurthy has already gone and purchased the land at Bijapur for the next campus.
"Swami also doesn’t want to forget mentioning about Sreenivas’ very good friend. He says if there has to be a friendship in the world, it has to be like this. Mr. Kishore, who is a very good friend of Sreenivas, is the one who supported the entire Raipur Hospital project, single-handedly. He has spent more than Rs. 100 crores to build the hospital and he pledges to do more".
While He praised devotees for their spirit of sacrifice, Sri Sathya Sai
Baba didn't praise people in public discourses for donating money and very
rarely even mentioned those who had. Why?
Today this Sai Krishna is directing His play with so many thousands of Arjunas. Nimitha Maathram Bhava Savyasaachin! ("Be only my instrument, Oh Arjuna"). You are only instruments. Do not arrogate to yourselves any authority or power and claim credit for any achievement. All your name and fame are due to your association with Sai organisations and the use of the Sai label. Without the Sai imprimatur where will you be? It is the Sai name that has conferred on you distinction and recognition. Therefore, bear in mind the name of Sai and carry on your work.
SSS 20.30: November 24, 1987, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume20/sss20-30.pdf
You have no reason to feel proud when you are able to help another, for your skill or wealth or strength or courage or official position that gave you the chance to serve was the gift of God, whether you recognise it or not. You are only offering this God's gift to another God's gift, namely the poor, the illiterate, the weak, the diseased, the grieving, the broken-hearted, who seek your help.
SSS 10.35: November 22, 1970, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume10/sss10-35.pdf
Swami said it was His mission to remove people's egos, rather than give
them further cause for pride or ego. Swami also condemned the behaviour of Gurus
who accumulate wealth and pander to those who donate money to them:
Let the Gurus condemn the accumulation of wealth and blame them for the misuse they are making of it; let them be unsparing in their condemnation; that is the sign of the Guru who knows his mission. On the other hand such Gurus ignore and tolerate evil in the would-be donors, because they are afraid any condemnation will dry up their source of income. Thus, they ruin the disciples by desisting from giving them the drastic drug they need, urgently, for their spiritual health. It has become a tragicomedy this hunt for moneyed disciples who can be fleeced. It has been developed by some sanyaasis (ascetics) into a fine art. The time has come to expose and punish such saadhus (noble souls) and that will be one task in the Dharmasthaapana (establishment of righteousness) for which I have come. The brokers that these Gurus have scattered over the country have also to be broken.
SSS 1.31: September 29, 1960, http://www.sssbpt.info/saiwords/english/sss/volume01/sss01-31.pdf
Sri Sathya Sai Baba also never encouraged worldly relationships (as
Madhusudan did with Sreenivas’ friend Kishore), advising instead that God is
the only true friend:
Consider God as your mother, father, friend and everything. He alone is the father and mother, friend and relation, wisdom and wealth to every individual… There is only one permanent friend: God. If you want to experience true love, have full faith in God. God's love is steady. It never diminishes. You may undergo any amount of suffering, yet you belong to God. You are His and He is yours. No third person can come between you and God. … God alone is your true friend. You may forget Him, but He will never forget you. He will be with you even after your death. Hence, treat God as your true friend. Ultimately, you will become one with Him. … God alone is your true friend. That is the reality. … Develop such firm conviction. Then God will always take care of you.
SSS 37.23: October 17, 2004, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume37/d041017.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu publicly praises those who have donated land or
money to his mission and said "These are not ordinary people.
These are saints and sages who have reincarnated in various forms".
2. Sri Sathya Sai
Baba said: "You have no reason to feel proud when you are able to help
another, for your skill or wealth or strength or courage or official position
that gave you the chance to serve was the gift of God, whether you recognize
it or not." (SSS 10.35).
QUESTIONS
1. Sri Sathya Sai Baba did not praise devotees
for donating money or land. Why would Madhusudan Naidu do this?
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Donors praised as reincarnated saints and sages
Madhusudan Naidu holds those who donate land or money up as ideals:
These are not ordinary people. These are
saints and sages who have reincarnated in various forms. This is one secret
Swami tells us today.
Madhusudan Naidu, Kodaikanal, May 13,
2014
Sukshma Baba claims Swami is dependent on the donations of rich devotees
Madhusudan Naidu admits that he asked Dr Shetty for money and openly
praises those who donate money or land to his cause. He also claims that Sri
Sathya Sai Baba asked Isaac Tigrett for money. He then claims that Sri Sathya
Sai Baba’s mission is dependent on donations from rich people:
Because of such people only, Bhagawan’s mission is continuing, otherwise
it would have stopped long, long ago.
Madhusudan Naidu, Kodaikanal, May 13,
2014
But did Sri Sathya Sai Baba say that His Mission was
dependent on the donations of the rich?
You all know very well that huge amount of money is required for such stupendous projects. But I did not ask anybody to give even a naya paisa. My Sankalpa (Will) is all-powerful.
Zeal and zest are more efficient instruments for service
than gifts and donations.
SSS 9.18: September 10, 1969, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume09/sss09-18.pdf
I do not involve Myself in money matters.
If any help is needed, come to Me. Swami shall provide
without hesitation. Do not collect a single paisa as donation. There are those
who donate a hundred rupees and make a thousand rupees worth of
self-glorification out of it. Swami is not interested in such activities.
Marketing with Swami’s name is highly disgusting and
distressful. There can be no commerce in matters
of devotion. Even the salty ocean may yield drinkable water, but this kind of
devotion is worthless. … Swami never solicits donations from
anybody nor has He agents for propagating His Message. I do not have any
association whatsoever with these deceitful persons. Swami needs no material
wealth. The only need of Swami is genuine love. Give love and take back love.
That is the only exchange. With that
love, fulfil your life. There is no devotion greater than love. Any little
service performed with love is enough.
Do not have any dealings with people who are doing
commercial transactions in the name of Sai. Send them packing with a namaskar.
If you need anything, ask Me. I have never deceived or let down anybody; nor
will I ever do so. Untruth will not be uttered by Me. My wish is that no such
undesirable act should be perpetrated on any of the genuine devotees…
SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu, speaking of those who had contributed money or
land to his mission said "These are not ordinary people. These
are saints and sages who have reincarnated in various forms".
2. Sri Sathya Sai
Baba said: "You have no reason to feel proud when you are able to help
another, for your skill or wealth or strength or courage or official position
that gave you the chance to serve was the gift of God, whether you recognize
it or not." (SSS 10.35).
3. Madhusudan Naidu,
speaking of those who had given land or money to him, said: "Because of
such people only, Bhagawan’s mission is continuing, otherwise it would have
stopped long, long ago."
4. Sri Sathya Sai
Baba says "You all know very well that huge amount of money is required
for such stupendous projects. But I did not ask anybody to give even a naya
paisa. My Will is all-powerful. Zeal and zest are more efficient
instruments for service than gifts and donations. (SSS 9.18). I do not
involve Myself in money matters. If any help is needed, come to Me. Swami
shall provide without hesitation. Do not collect a single paisa as donation. (SSS
35.11)
QUESTIONS
1. Sri Sathya Sai
Baba said that He did not
ask anybody to give even a naya paisa and that His Will is all-powerful
Why then would Madhusudan Naidu claim that Swami now says it was only because
of the donations of rich men that He was able to continue His mission?
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Sathya
Sai on Money and Service
Madhusudan’s
attitude and statements on the topics of money and service appear to be in
stark contrast to Swami's. Let us look further into what Swami said about money
and service:
What is required for service is not money or materials. A
loving heart is the first requisite. All service done without a love-filled
heart is as dry as dust. Fill your hearts with love. When you are filled with
conceit, everything looks out of shape. When you are immersed in the Spirit,
everything looks good and beautiful. Forgetting this higher destiny, people are
ceasing to be human.
People dodge the main issue of limiting their desires and instead, donate some token amount for the activities taken up by Sathya Sai Organisations. Money was never desired by Sathya Sai Organisations. The main agenda of our Organisation is to ensure that people stand as ideals for others to emulate. We should change our mindset gradually to be able to achieve this. Sathya Sai Organisations should work for this with unity without any discriminations of caste, creed or nationality.
SSS 21.31: November 21, 1988, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume21/sss21-31.pdf
Religion has declined in this land due to this donation-seeking and donation-granting. Really speaking, the most precious donation is a pure mind. Give that to the Organisation and it will shine.
SSS 7.18: April 21, 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-18.pdf
Through sacrifice you will come to know that your real nature is charity. Charity does not mean that you have given some money to an individual or an organisation. The removal of all of the evil thoughts that are within you is true charity. Charity will , in turn confer purity upon you. Once you have purity, there will be unity. And once you have unity, you can reach Divinity.
Sathya Sai Newsletter USA, Vol. 13, Number 4, p.20, http://www.saibaba.ws/teachings1/selflessservice.htm
You should not draw in anyone as member of the samiti for
the sake of the money that he or she may have. Guna (qualities) are more
valuable than ānās (coins). Money is the root cause of all misunderstandings
and factions. Keep it in the background. Give it the least importance. Have
love, humility, detachment and service as your funds.
SSS 8.44: November 21, 1968, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume08/sss08-44.pdf
You need not have to spend a lot of money in service. Sanctify your life by undertaking loving service. Today, the old students of Sri Sathya Sai Institute of Higher Learning have brought a cheque for Rs. 48 lakhs to present to Swami as a token of their love and service. This amount has been saved by them from their salaries, by undergoing lot of difficulties. But to whom should the amount belong, really? This amount is meant to be utilised for service in the villages. It is for serving the poorest of the poor. Therefore, I told them, "My dear ones! You deposit the money in the bank and undertake the service activities with the interest accrued on the amount." Money is of no help in developing good qualities. Sacrifice alone can develop noble qualities.
SSS 37.1: January 1, 2004, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume37/sss37-01.pdf
Pride of wealth is another grievous human failing, which
causes the downfall of man. All forms of pride, based on birth, wealth, power
or scholarship, have to be given up totally. Only when egotistical pride is
offered as a sacrifice at the altar of the Divine can man discover his true
nature. This is the dedication that is called for as the first step in the
spiritual journey.
SSS 21.5: January 16, 1988, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume21/sss21-05.pdf
The advent [of this Avatar] took place sixty four years ago. All these years, this hand has not stretched at any time to seek anything from anyone. I have not asked anyone. I will never ask anyone and there will never be an occasion for it.
SSS 23.34: November 23, 1990, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume08/sss08-44.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Sri Sathya Sai Baba says "What is required for service
is not money or materials. A loving heart is the first requisite. Money was
never desired by Sathya Sai Organisations". (SSS 21.31)
2. Madhusudan Naidu, as previously
stated, says he asked Dr Ram Shetty for help with continuing his hospital.
3. Sri Sathya Sai
Baba says "Religion has declined in this land due to this
donation-seeking and donation-granting. Really speaking, the most precious
donation is a pure mind". (SSS 7.18)
4. Madhusudan Naidu also claims that Sri Sathya Sai Baba asked
Tigrett for money for the Super Specialty Hospital.
5. Sri Sathya Sai Baba says "All
these years, this hand has not stretched at any time to seek anything from
anyone. I have not asked anyone. I will never ask anyone and there will never
be an occasion for it".
QUESTIONS
1. If Madhusudan is simply
repeating what he hears Swami say as he claims, why is there such a
difference between their attitudes to money?
2. What benefit would Madhusudan Naidu see in claiming that Sri Sathya
Sai Baba asked devotees for money?
3. What benefit would he see in saying that Swami's mission was
dependent on the donations of rich men?
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Then how did Swami build the hospitals and
colleges?
Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that He never asked for
money, He simply willed and the funds became available. Below is one of the
very few times when Swami mentioned how these service projects were achieved.
Note that in each case it was a devotee who came to Swami offering to complete
the project. Swami never asked for money, He simply willed and the money came:
Of course, money is an essential requisite and those who have assumed responsibility for service projects do need it. Six thousand villages have been adopted by the units of the organization and facilities for education and medicine are provided therein, besides roads and wells. When I decide on a project, the wherewithal for accomplishing has to be spontaneously available without any fund raising campaign. My will has the power to concretize my plan. I willed that a College must rise in Puttaparthi; the Rajmatha of Nawanagar built it. In order to feed it with properly trained boys, I willed a Higher Secondary School; Bozzani from America asked that he be given the chance to build it. I thought that at this place education on Sai lines must be available to children from the Primary stage itself. Craxi, the brother of the Prime Minister of Italy, offered to build the School. At Bangalore, when I decided on a plan for a College and Hostel, Mrs. Elsie Cowan asked that she be given the privilege of completing it. Such is the might of my Sankalpa my Will.
SSS 18.25: November 23, 1985, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume18/sss18-25.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu,
speaking of those who had given land or money to him: "Because of such
people only, Bhagawan’s mission is continuing, otherwise it would have
stopped long, long ago."
2. Sathya Sai Baba
says "When I decide on a project, the wherewithal for
accomplishing has to be spontaneously available without any fund raising
campaign. My will has the power to concretize my plan".
QUESTIONS
3. Why then would
Swami say that it was only because of the donations of rich men that He was
able to continue His mission?
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Setting Targets for Service?
An attendee at the recent Summer Course in Muddenahalli reported:
In the afternoon, we had an interactive session conducted
by Bro Vijay Sai and Bro Sri Ram. We were made to sit region wise and asked to
discuss what service we would take up going back to our cities and its time
bound implementation.
Is this the spirit of service Sri Sathya Sai Baba taught?
Clever propaganda may achieve some temporary results but, in the long run, it will bring disappointment and disillusion. Like the 'rockets' lit by children on Deepavali night, it will flare up and fizzle down. Today, we are confronted everywhere by statistics parading quantities and reports in glowing terms. Do not bother about adding to the number or achieving a target. I value quality, not quantity. Genuine, intensive devoted service offered in a few villages is more fruitful than casual contacts and superficial service offered to a large number.
SSS 19.25: November 21, 1986 http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume19/sss19-25.pdf
Quantity of service vs Quality of service
Speaking about the correct attitude when performing service,
Sathya Sai Baba said:
God will not ask you, when and where did you do service? He will ask, "With what motive did you do it? What was the intention that prompted you?" You may weigh the seva and boast of its quantity. But, God seeks quality, the quality of the heart, the purity of the mind, the holiness of the motive.
SSS 15.31: November 19, 1981, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume15/sss15-31.pdf
As members of the Sathya Sai Seva Organisation, you have to be an example to others. In whatever service you do, it is the quality that counts, not the quantity. No act of service should be considered trivial or debasing. Nor should there be unhealthy rivalry in rendering service.
SSS 17.13: May 20, 1984, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume17/sss17-13.pdf
Any little service performed with love is enough. If you give a glass of water to a thirsty person with genuine love, it is more than enough. Almost 90 percent of the so-called devotees are, in fact, deceitful. Earlier, it was quite different: devotees were few, but they were genuine devotees. Nowadays, there are too many self-seeking cheats masquerading as devotees. First thing in the morning, they adorn their forehead with vibhuti (holy ash), wrap a scarf round their neck, and roam about freely in the guise of devotees. Even the stray dogs scrounging around for something to eat are better than such fake devotees!
SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
Give in reverence; give in plenty; give with modesty; give as to a friend; give without any thought of reward. Do not give ostentatiously. The service in the Hospital, the service in the Bhajan Group - all have to be done, with humility and reverence. Then only can they yield chiththa-suddhi (purification of mind and thought), which is the main benefit derivable from Seva.
SSS 7.48: December 21, 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-48.pdf
Our attitude during a service activity determines whether or not the service helps us grow spiritually. Service performed with a sense of pride or superiority may help the person we are serving, but it does not help us. Do not pollute your service with the poison of pride.
SSS 11.10: February 21, 1971, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume11/sss11-10.pdf
Feel that you are serving yourself, that you are curbing
your own ego.
SSS 7.18: 21 April 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-18.pdf
There are no "others" in 'the Sai Organisation. We are one family. The word, "thanks," should not be used in the Sai Organisation. It is purely a conventional expression, in the ordinary world. The member of a family who works for the family is different from a worker who labours for wages. Members of the Sai Organisation should render service without expectation of any reward or recognition.
SSS 28.33: November 20, 1995, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume28/sss28-33.pdf
To remove the evil of egoism, service is the most efficient instrument. Service will also impress on the person doing service, the Unity of all mankind. He who dedicates his time, skill and strength to service, can never meet defeat, distress or disappointment, for service is its own reward.
SSS 13.22: August 28, 1976, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume13/sss13-22.pdf
But do not believe that you can by means of Seva re-form or re-shape the world. You may or you may not. That does not matter. The real value of Seva, its most visible result, is that it reforms you, reshapes you. Do Seva as a Sadhana; then you will be humble and happy. Do not strut about that you are improving others; improve yourself.
SSS 7.14: March 29, 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-14.pdf
The worship of jeeva (individual being), which is the other name for seva can be worthwhile only when the heart is pure. All the various types of service that one may write and talk about are mere empty, boasts if the mind of the sevak (volunteer) is not pure. A heart bubbling with ananda and a mind saturated with love may do any tiny bit of seva, yet that will win much more Grace than huge projects undertaken in pride and pomp.
Preliminary to any seva, you have to uproot all egotistic tendencies, get rid of all sense of mine and thine and burn to ashes the pride that comes of the feeling that you are offering service to someone poorer and less fortunate.
As a preliminary to seva you have to win purity of heart. You must examine your motives and skills, your intentions and qualifications, and discover for yourself what you hope to achieve through the seva. You should ferret out any trace of egotism, and also the desire for fame or even of being near Swami. If you have an irrepressible urge to possess things that contribute to your comfort or sense of superiority over others who are your friends or kith and kin, then the sooner you leave the Dal the better.
Do deeds that are holy and beneficial, untarnished by ego and the greed to benefit. Start on the sacred pilgrimage to the Divine Goal and make every minute of your life holy and purposeful. Then, surely, this earth, your karmakshethra (field of work), will be transformed into a dharmakshethra (field of righteousness).
While judging the seva done by a member of the Dal, it is not the quantity or number of
individual instances that matter; they do not count at all. Judge rather the motive that led him to serve, the genuineness of the love and compassion with which the seva was saturated.
SSS 14.13: November 22, 1978 http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume14/sss14-13.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan
Naidu's followers are encouraged to set targets for implementing service
projects.
2. Sathya Sai Baba
said that today, we are confronted everywhere by statistics parading
quantities and reports in glowing terms. Do not bother about adding to the
number or achieving a target. I value quality, not quantity. (SSS 19.25).
3. Sri Sathya Sai Baba also said "Give in reverence; give
in plenty; give with modesty; give as to a friend; give without any thought
of reward. Do not give ostentatiously." (SSS 7.48). While judging the
seva done by a member of the Dal, it is not the quantity or number of
individual instances that matter; they do not count at all. Judge rather the
motive that led him to serve, the genuineness of the love and compassion with
which the seva was saturated. (SSS 14.13)
QUESTIONS
1. Why would
Madhusudan’s followers be encouraged to set targets for their service
activities when Swami said not to do this?
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Publicity and recruitment
Since 2011 BN
Narasimhamurthy and Madhusudan Naidu have led a campaign to convince devotees of
their claims that Sri Sathya Sai Baba is now living in Muddenahalli in a ‘subtle
body’.
This
campaign intensified in 2014 with the publication of talks given in Kodaikanal by
Madhusudan Naidu, which he claimed were discourses communicated to him by Sri
Sathya Sai Baba in a subtle body. These talks were spread all over the world
via websites and email.
In 2014 V
Kumar contacted several Sai youth in Australia directly in order to recruit
them. In November 2014 lists of Australian Sai Youth were drawn up by V Kumar
and youth were assigned to approach those on the list to convince them that
Sathya Sai Baba was now communicating with Madhusudan Naidu.
Madhusudan
Naidu and his team then advised that they would visit Australia. During the
Muddenahalli team’s visit to Australia an event was organised and invitations
were sent out to devotees asking them to attend.
Youth have
also been invited to what they believed to be a social or spiritual gathering
only to find that the purpose of the gathering was for a Muddenahalli supporter
to attempt to convince them that Sri Sathya Sai Baba has returned in a subtle
body and is now residing in Muddenahalli.
In Prashanti Nilayam itself Muddenahalli supporters approach Sai
devotees and ask them to go to Muddenahalli. There have been many reports from
devotees returning from India that they are being approached in the ashram and
told "Swami is no longer in Prashanti Nilayam, He is now at Muddenahalli,
so you should go there". Those who visit Muddenahalli are being told the
same.
Invitations are sent out to devotees to encourage them to come to events
in Muddenahalli such as the youth conference to be held in November 2015, as
well as Sathya Sai Baba's birthday celebrations, which Muddenahalli now holds
separately to the Sathya Sai Organisation. While in America, Madhusudan Naidu's
supporters also sent out invitations to the meeting he held in Encinitas.
Mr B Narasimhamurthy in his book 'Helpline on the Sathya Sai Path',
encourages devotees to publicise Swami and His message:
You should definitely cultivate the missionary zeal to propagate the message of Swami for the welfare of the world.
Helpline on the Sathya Sai Path, p.161
Madhusudan also encourages those who follow him to publicise their
experiences:
When I asked Swami about sharing my experience with others His answer was:
“Tell fearlessly what you have experienced. If there is a mistake, only then there has to be fear. There is no mistake, so there is no scope for fear. Tell what your heart has witnessed. For those who ask sincerely, ask with feeling, let them know that there is a way to experience Swami still, and that is through the path of humility and open-mindedness. If somebody is humble and broad-minded, definitely he will understand. There is no point in chanting Vedas to buffaloes. They will not understand anything. Teach them to those who will understand. For the others, silence is the best answer.
A follower describes how Madhusudan (whom he refers to as Swami) looked
at him and told him to write about his experiences after the recent Summer
Course in Muddenahalli:
I was running with the car as Swami was returning to Prem
Deep. He looks at me and says, "Write". I didn’t quite get it. I ask
Him, "Swami?". He says, "Experience". Like a proud father,
after the successful completion of Summer Course, He wanted me to share the joy
that I had experienced, with others too who were not able to attend for various
reasons.
Yet Swami
said to Arnold Schulman, an author who wanted to write a book about Him:
“You don’t understand,” Baba said. “I only told you ‘write a book,’ because I wanted you. Understand? You. Not a book. The book is publicity. I don’t need publicity. I don’t want publicity. I want you. I want your faith. I want your love. Everybody who comes here to see Me thinks they have arranged it, but I arranged it...”
Did Swami
ever indulge in publicity or recruitment? Swami Himself said:
The power of attraction is divinity. A small example: Thousands have gathered here today. Who invited you? Has anybody sent invitations to you? No invitations have been sent. Then how have you come here? Your love for Swami is the main cause. Nobody has brought you here by force. You all know this. People are brought in lorries for political meetings. In spite of repeatedly requesting you not to come, you still come here. Attraction of love is Divinity. This is the divine magnet.
SSS 31.43: 23 November 1998 http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume31/sss31-43.pdf
I am not interested in seeing this Hall packed to its capacity.
I want only quality, not quantity. One teaspoonful of cow's milk is better than
barrels of donkey's milk. It is enough if we have a handful of people with
noble hearts.
SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
Swami prefers that additional people come only through observing the virtuous lives of the Centre members, and by word of mouth. Notices and such might start small, but in time they will get out-of-hand. Even such small things as notices will be taken as an advertising of Swami. Other Swamis have to advertise and even provide transport, but Sai does no advertising, yet thousands come. Sai even tells the people here to go home, but they stay. There is this difference.
Embodiments of Love! I have spoken to you in this manner only out of My immense love for you. Understand what has been conveyed to you and explain to your fellow devotees. Devotion has to be cultivated in a silent and sincere manner. Do not spoil your lives by resorting to untruthful ways. Sathyam bruyath (speak the truth). Truth is God. Hence, lead a truthful life and ultimately merge in truth.
SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
I do not depend on outer manifestation and actions; I am related to you through the inner principle of Love. If you are to be drawn by outer attractions, advertisement is imperative. For example, if such a Conference or such a Celebration is held in any other place, invitations have to be printed and sent out, personal requests have to be made so that this person or that can attend. Considerations have to be held forth to many so that the invitations may be accepted and the function made a success. But here in the Prashanthi Nilayam, no invitation has ever been printed and distributed on any occasion, asking people to come. No one has been specially requested to take part. It is Love, the invitations of the Heart to the heart, that has brought you in tens of thousands to this place. The validity and value of Love are proved by you; Love is the most potent of My powers.
SSS 10.34: November 22, 1970 http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume10/sss10-34.pdf
The Lord has no intention to publicize himself. I do not need publicity, nor does any other Avathar of the Lord. What are you daring to publicize? Me? What do you know about me? You speak one thing about me today and another tomorrow. Your faith has not become unshakable. You praise me when things go well and blame me when things go wrong. When you start publicity you descend to the level of those who compete in collecting plenty by decrying others and extolling themselves.
43rd
birthday discourse, http://www.sathyasai.org/discour/1968/d681123.htm
I have not come on any mission of publicity for any sect, or creed or cause; nor have I come to collect followers for any doctrine. I have no plan to attract disciples or devotees into My fold or any fold. I have come to tell you of this universal unitary faith, this Atmic Principle, this path of love, this dharma of love, this duty of love, this obligation to love.
SSS 8.22: July 4, 1968, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume08/sss08-22.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu asks people to write about him and publicise their
experiences with him. He tells his followers to share their experiences with
those who are likely to believe them.
2. Sathya Sai Baba said that he needs no publicity
and doesn't want publicity. He said that He wants quality and not quantity.
QUESTIONS
1. Sri Sathya Sai Baba never engaged in
publicity and said that He wanted quality, not quantity. If Madhusudan Naidu
is in communication with Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why do he and those who support
him indulge in publicity against the express wish of Sri Sathya Sai Baba?
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Publicising service activities
It is said that actions speak louder than words and we will
now examine Madhusudan Naidu's first service project in the light of Sri Sathya
Sai Baba's teachings and example.
The first large project undertaken by the Muddenahalli group
was the Sathya Sai Sanjeevani hospital in Naya Raipur, located near Madhusudan
Naidu's home. The home page for the Raipur Sai Sanjeevani hospital advertises
the number of surgeries completed at the hospital in large font.
Sri Sathya Sai Baba did not advertise the service activities
of the Sathya Sai Organisation in the media and said:
Today’s newspaper becomes tomorrow’s waste paper.
SSS 35.6: April 13, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-06.pdf
At the first anniversary of the inauguration of the
Whitefield Super Specialty Hospital, Swami also reiterated:
I have nothing to do with newspapers.
SSS 35.2:
January 19, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-02.pdf
However the Sathya Sai Sanjeevani hospital website has a
monthly newsletter publicising the hospital’s activities. It gives statistics on
how many patients have been seen, what treatment was given and where they are
from as well as displaying newspaper clippings praising the hospital.
Each edition of the hospital newsletter has photos of the
hospital staff. Each edition starts with the slogan
‘Read. Be Inspired. Act.’
Repeated multiple times in each newsletter is a
banner advertising:
“All services are rendered totally free of charge.”
There is a link on the website titled ‘Free of
Cost’. Under the heading ‘Gift of Life’ on this link is the statement:
This Temple of healing is supported by numerous selfless individuals who are dedicated to take forward the direction shown by Sri Sathya Sai Baba and wish to bring smiles to as many little hearts of the country and the world.
The June 2015 edition of the hospital newsletter also has an
advertisement thanking people for their support:
Thank you for being with us in enabling this beautiful task of love and selfless service to the most needy. Your support has been truly priceless.
Each edition has a request that people continue to
contribute to the newsletter such as:
Do continue to stay in touch. It means the world to us.
Your Sai Sanjeevani Team
The June edition also carries newspaper photos of an award
ceremony with the caption:
Sri Sathya Sai Sanjeevani Hospital adjudged 'The Best Hospital' in Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh and Maharashtra by eminent media channel, IBC 24.
The hospital website also has a newsroom to further display newspaper
articles about the hospital and its activities:
The photo gallery also has photos of newspaper articles on the
hospital. The video gallery also has videos advertising the hospital and its
story as well as video taken of a television news story on the hospital.
This kind of overt media publicising is conspicuously absent
on the websites for both the Puttaparthi and Bangalore Super Specialty
Hospitals which Sri Sathya Sai Baba founded. There is no overt advertisement
that the hospital’s services are free. There is also nothing saying that the
hospitals are supported by selfless individuals and that support is greatly
appreciated:
While the work done for children by the Raipur hospital is
no doubt laudable, the fact that they have named the hospital Sri Sathya Sai
Sanjeevani means that their activities represent Swami and must follow Swami’s
standards. Therefore the essential question here is – do they follow Swami’s
teachings on service and publicity? More specifically, did Sri Sathya Sai Baba approve
the publicising of service activities?
Their seva (selfless service) should not be exhibitionistic; it must seek no reward, not even gratitude or thanks from the recipients.
SSS 8.6: February 23, 1968, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume08/sss08-06.pdf
Service activities in all lands can thrive only through
selfless dedication. Fanfare is a sign of insincerity.
Silent, unsullied work alone can appeal.
SSS 19.25: November 21, 1986 http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume19/sss19-25.pdf
Social service should not become show-cial work(!) carried out for publicity or with the camera in view.
SSS 10.3: January 2, 1970, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume10/sss10-03.pdf
There are many who come forward when there is a call for social service; but, most of them crave for publicity, seeking cameramen whenever they help others and very disappointed when they are not mentioned in newspapers! Such men push themselves forward, and climb into positions of authority, just to parade their importance before the public. They forget that service is worship, that each act of service is a flower placed at the feet of the Lord, and that, if the act is tainted with ego, it is as if the flower is infested with slimy insect pests! Who will contaminate the feet with such foul offering?
SSS 11.16: March 8, 1971, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume11/sss11-16.pdf
The act of service is not to be judged, according to the
cost or publicity it entails; it may be only the offering of a cup of water in
the depth of a jungle.
SSS 7.23: May 24, 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-23.pdf
God will not ask when and where you did service; he will
ask what your motives and intentions were. The attitudes of mutual help and
selfless service develop the "humanness" of man and help unfold the
Divinity latent in him.
SSS 15.31: November 19, 1981, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume15/sss15-31.pdf
Religion has declined in this land due to this donation-seeking and donation-granting. Really speaking, the most precious donation is a pure mind; give that to the organisation and it will shine.
SSS 7.18: April 21, 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-18.pdf
I do not ask for even a single paisa from others. I never approve of such business. Whoever it may be, if somebody approaches you with such a crass motive, tell him to get out at once. Do not allow business to enter the field of spirituality.”
SSS 35.11: 22 July, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu's Sathya Sai Sanjeevani hospital has been widely
publicised in the media and the hospital website advertises prominently how
many surgeries have been performed. The hospital website also contains a
media room, newsletter, photo gallery and video gallery, all advertising the
service performed and displaying articles about the hospital from newspapers
and the media.
2. Sathya Sai Baba said fanfare is a sign of insincerity. Silent, unsullied work alone can
appeal. (SSS
19.25).
Social service should not become show-cial work(!) carried out for
publicity or with the camera in view. (SSS 10.3).
3. The hospital
newsletter directs people to ‘‘Read. Be Inspired. Act.’ It repeats multiple
times in each newsletter that “All services are rendered totally free
of charge.” The website talks about how the hospital is supported by numerous
selfless individuals who want to bring smiles to children. The newsletter
runs a banner thanking people for their support and saying that their support
is priceless.
4. Sri Sathya Sai
Baba said selfless service must seek no reward. He also said not to ask for
donations in any way, either subtle or overt.
QUESTIONS
1. If Madhusudan Naidu is in communication with Sri Sathya Sai Baba,
why are his service projects using media publicity, which is directly against
Swami’s teachings?
2. Since Swami says
that selfless service should seek no reward, if a service activity is
advertised and publicized and lauded in the media, can it still be called selfless
service?
3. The hospital
uses multiple ways to constantly remind people of the amount of service done
and that it is done free of cost while at the same time reminding people of
the fact that the hospital needs support and asking them to act. Isn’t this
just another way of asking for money?
4. If Madhusudan
Naidu is in communication with Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why is there such a vast
difference in his hospital’s attitude to media and publicity when compared to
the silent selfless service of the hospitals founded by Sri Sathya Sai Baba?
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Portrayal of those
involved with Sukshma Baba
In his book 'Loving God', Baba's biographer Sri N Kasturi
talks about an incident that occurred while he was visiting Orissa to speak
about Baba. His hosts had printed a programme for his tour of Orissa, one item
being marked as 'Interviews with Prominent Personalities'. Although not quite
comfortable with this description, Professor Kasturi let the matter go. But
what happened as a result? When Kasturi returned to Prashanti Nilayam Swami refused
to speak to him for days. When He eventually began talking to Kasturi again,
Swami berated him:
"What
has happened to you? Your pride is unbearable. Your swollen head will burst
some day. What did you do in Orissa? You should get a merciless spanking". When Kasturi pleaded ignorance Swami handed a copy of his Orissa
program to him, pointing out entry that read 'Interviews with Prominent
Personalities.' Swami asked him "When
you saw this announcement did you tell them it was wrong"? "No
Swami". "There lies your pride,
your bloated ego," He said. Swami then told him to "Send a telegram to those people that
if they repeat such nonsense you won't enter Orissa". Kasturi of promised
that he would and apologised, explaining that he only kept silent as he hadn't
wanted to pain his hosts and create a scene. Swami simply patted him on the
shoulder and softly said "Go and
send the telegram". Kasturi said "I had been cleansed again. But,
what a tunnel of travail I had to crawl through to emerge into the Light of
Love"! He swore never again to allow this to happen.
Mr Kasturi later explains:
I must confess that the Orissa debacle happened because
the words 'prominent personalities' tickled me as did the word 'interviews'
(with the VIP of the Sai Family!). Of course I rationalised the situation and
justified my acceptance as an exhibition of good manners or even of disdain.
But Baba knew that my ego felt elated and when the personalities where ushered
in for the interview. It revealed a deep spiritual flaw and Baba graciously
undertook to correct it.
Loving God, pp.411-416
Swami carefully and lovingly protected those around
Him from even a trace of pride or ego raising its head. Why?
Now, the question arises, “What exactly is the thick
cloth that covers the mirror of one’s mind”? This cloth is made up of the
arishad-varga—the gang of six internal enemies of man—viz. kama (desire),
krodha (anger), lobha(greed), moha (attachment), mada (pride), and maatsarya (jealousy,
envy). Out of the six, pride may be considered as the worst enemy. Pride
is of eight kinds: pride of money, learning, caste, affluence, beauty, youth,
position or authority, and tapas(spiritual pride).
Only when egoistic pride is offered as a sacrifice at the altar of the Divine can man discover his true nature. This is the Dedication that is called for as the first step in the spiritual journey.
SSS 21.5: January 16, 1988, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume21/sss21-05.pdf
Pride will transform friends into enemies; it will keep even kinsmen afar; it will defeat all good schemes. Seva will develop in you the quality of humility. Humility will enable you to work in happy unison with others.
SSS 15.32: November 21, 1981, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume15/sss15-32.pdf
If Sukshma Baba is truly Sri Sathya Sai Baba, wouldn’t it be reasonable
to expect that he would also protect those around him from developing ego? Do those close to 'Sukshma Baba' adhere to the same high standards that
Swami set?
On the Sai Uvacha website we read the description of
Madhusudan Naidu:
A brilliant student, an ardent devotee and a most humble
servant of Swami, Madhusudhan Rao Naidu deserves all the accolades and grace
that Swami has bestowed upon him. Just as a loving mother would bend down to
pick up a small child, God descends on earth to forge a bond of kinship with
humanity and facilitate its ascend to divinity. While it is true that Sathya Sai
Baba does not need any mediums or intermediaries, he does need totally selfless
and dedicated individuals such as Madhusudhan Rao Naidu and Sri Narsimha
Murthy, willing to sacrifice their entire lives to become the most
worthy instruments in the divine hands.
The Truth about
Sukshma Baba document describes Madhusudan as ‘Madhu Baba‘:
For over a decade, Sai Baba had been preparing
Madhusudhan for this role. He had to undergo austerities until the only thing
in his life at all times was Swami. Nothing else exists for him ever. Madhu achieved
the ultimate sacrifice of total complete surrender to the absolute which we refer to
as Sathya Sai Baba.
If he wanted, he could have merged but chose to remain in his physical vehicle to help Swami complete his mission. There is no difference between the two. Swami and Madhu are one.
When you look into Madhu's eyes you see Baba. The voice that speaks is Baba. The gestures, walking and mannerism are Baba. Even the smell of Jasmine are indications of their oneness. There is only one difference between what is happening with Madhu-Baba and Sathya Sai Baba. Previously, there was a form. Now that is gone but everything else is the same.
Truth about Sukshma Baba, p.1
People are deluded into
believing that Sathya Sai Baba communicates through another person. But the
Truth is that in a phenomenon unknown to most and used very infrequently in
history, a process that remains a mystery. Swami is Madhu. The words are his.
The mouth moving is him, the gestures and manner of speaking are completely
Sai. There is no Swami and Madhu. There is only one Sai Baba/ Madhu.
Email from Gerald Dominick (Sai Surya)
06/09/15
As previously stated, Madhusudan was known as a
skilled actor in his university days and his speciality was imitating Baba's
voice and mannerisms.
Sri B N Narasimhamurthy is praised as follows
in the same document:
Narasimha has devoted his entire life to Sai Baba. Swami entrusted him with several important positions. His life has been angelic to the point of surrender to Baba. So pure is Narasimha that he had the reputation of being the only person who advice Baba followed.
Truth about Sukshma Baba, p.3
In her document, The Glory of God in Croatia, Connie
Shaw describes her impressions of the Muddenahalli team's visit to Croatia. On
page 1 and 2, Connie describes herself thus:
Having served Sathya Sai Baba for 34 years in various
capacities, my information-gathering collectors were automatically in place…
“Since you have been blessed with the seva of taking 48 groups of sick people to India; have been blessed with many interviews; and Swami has appeared in your house 57 times; and hundreds of times during your thousands of talks in dozens of countries, how did you discern whether the Muddenahalli phenomenon, the Sai “Sukshma” or Subtle Body, was, in fact, genuine? Could you have been tricked?”
Connie Shaw
quoted in Glory of God in Croatia, pp.1-2
She then goes on to describe the Muddenahalli team:
Dynamic, forty-ish Sri Ravi Kasturi, Sai’s enormously talented Team Organizer and Envoy, who has the energy of triplets and the charm of Krishna…
Sri Ravi is like a combination of a fast-moving sprite, a circus ring-leader, a Master of Ceremonies, a Field Marshall, and the ultimate Body Guard, all in one.
Connie Shaw
quoted in Glory of God in Croatia, p.2
The first speaker was Isaac Tigrett, the venerable white-haired,
bearded, distinguished-looking founder of the Hard Rock Café chain and the
House of Blues cafes, (plus countless other enterprises). His tall, imposing
figure was matched by his charisma and his obvious adoration of the Avatar…
Connie Shaw quoted in Glory of God in
Croatia, p.3
White-haired Sri Narasimha Murthy, the warden of the Sri
Sathya Sai School at Muddenahalli, who is tall, strongly-built and imposing,
looked resplendent in his long stylish kurta and matching pants.
Connie Shaw
quoted in Glory of God in Croatia, p.3
When slender, fluid Dr. Srinivas, the very appealing and accomplished physician, ambassador-for- Sai, and speaker extraordinaire, finished his two intimate talks, there was hardly a dry eye each time.
Connie Shaw
quoted in Glory of God in Croatia, p.3
During the morning session, I saw, to my surprise and delight, Isaac Tigrett’s subtle body get up from his chair to the left of the stage, facing the audience, and move through the rows of women Vedic chanters while his physical body was still sitting in the chair! Like a kindly grand-father, he lovingly bent over and blessed/tapped the top of each woman’s head, in appreciation for their chanting and their high vibrations.
Connie Shaw
quoted in Glory of God in Croatia, p.3
Connie finishes by describing herself as follows:
Ms. Connie Shaw has served Sathya Sai Baba for 34 years and has fulfilled many roles and capacities in the U.S. Sai Organisation. She has traveled (sic) in 60 countries and is the author of “Wake Up Laughing: My Miraculous Life with Sai Baba.” Ms. Shaw has given over 2,000 talks on the Love, Power and Divinity of the Avatar both in person and in 130 venues on Skype, on five continents.
Connie Shaw quoted in Glory of God in Croatia,
p.5
In the Visit to
Ebe, Nigeria 14th–17th July 2015 document, the main players of the
Muddenahalli group are portrayed prominently through many photos and effusive
titles.
Yet was this Swami's way? Swami always taught that our
main focus should be on God, not on those who through His Grace were fortunate
to have a role in His mission. Let us examine the latest information on how the
main players at Muddenahalli are allowing themselves to be portrayed:
Sri Madhusudhan, the pure hearted one who transmits His messages through the astral plane; Narashimha Murthy, the Lord’s instrument for the spread of Educare, Isaac Tigrett, the epitome of Divine strength and courage; C. Sreenivas, the guru of selfless healthcare services; Ravi Kasturi, the Lord’s Hanumanji who has the energy of a thousand warriors , and V. Kumar, the angelic voice.
Visit to Ebe, Nigeria 14th–17th July 2015, pp.2-3
Following this were a number of photos of the team,
captioned as follows:
- Sri Sreenivas is as Sweet as His Lord
- Madhu - Pure humble Instrument of Divinity
- Tigrett - The Tiger of God
- Sreenivas - Paradigm of Selfless Healthcare Service
- Ravi Kasturi - the Lord's Hanumanji
- Narashimha Murthy - Educare personified
- Madhu, Seated at the Right hand of the Father (this is a reference
to Jesus)
What did Swami say about publicising devotion?
Devotion is not an acquisition to be advertised; it is a secret gain which has to be communicated only to God. … But, just think for a while: Who granted you the chance, the intelligence, the success? The Lord. You are helpless without Him. He chose, He prompted, He executed, it was done. Be humble, be cordial with all. They are equally devoted and sincere.
SSS 9.32: November 20, 1969, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume09/sss09-32.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. In order to save Kasturi from the danger
of ego and pride, Swami chastised him for not objecting when another devotee simply
wrote that Kasturi would grant ‘interviews’ to ‘prominent personages.’
2. Madhusudan Naidu and the team he travels
with allow themselves to be praised profusely, and be compared to Baba,
Hanuman, Jesus and Krishna. Madhusudan also grants 'interviews' and
'discourses' in imitation of Sri Sathya Sai Baba.
QUESTIONS
1. Looking at the way Madhusudan and his team
allow themselves to be portrayed on an ongoing basis, would Sri Sathya Sai
Baba approve of this behaviour? If not, why does Madhusudan’s Sukshma Baba
approve of it?
2. Does this kind of behaviour focus devotees on Swami or Madhu and
his team?
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Love for publicity?
In
subsequent talks, Madhusudan Naidu spoke more about love but still with self-interest
in asking supporters to use love to publicise him and spread his message, particularly
to Sathya Sai Baba's students:
Only those who have great love for Swami and great humility, only they have this opportunity to experience these things. Protect these feelings in your heart as you protect a candle in the wind. It can go away any time because the breeze is so strong. So be very careful to preserve this feeling in your heart and carry it wherever you go, and spread this light of the candle to all the dark corners of the world.
If you rather pass on My Love through you to all My children, you would be spreading this message of Mine much more efficiently.
You develop this Love and give that Love to others, and the world will believe that I have not gone anywhere.
But more important is that you have to live My message of
Love, and let you be a channel of My Love to reach out to My students. I
am the tank. You are the tap. If you don’t deliver pure water in the tap, in
the same form to My students, then My students will go thirsty, and they might
think that the tank is empty. No. The tank is always full. The tap is
faulty. So, you become My messenger of Love, and not messenger of books.
Books people can read, but Love people can feel. Go to Bagalkot and serve
there with all My Love. Give it to all the children who have not experienced
Me.
Madhusudan
Naidu, Kodaikanal, May 19, 2014, p.6
Whereas,
Sathya Sai Baba's teachings on love were based on pure unselfish love without
the desire for publicity:
I have not come on any mission of publicity for any sect, or creed or cause; nor have I come to collect followers for any doctrine. I have no plan to attract disciples or devotees into My fold or any fold. I have come to tell you of this universal unitary faith, this Atmic Principle, this path of love, this dharma of love, this duty of love, this obligation to love.
Sathya Sai
Baba said that Love is what He is, that Love is the path that leads to Him and
that the Avatar comes to show mankind that Love is its reality:
You can call Me the Embodiment of Divine Love
(Premaswarupa)! You will not be wrong! Prema is the wealth that I have and that
I scatter among the miserable and afflicted. I have no other riches.
SSS 1.10: July 22, 1958, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume01/sss01-10.pdf
Develop that love for men everywhere. That is My mission too, My resolution, My Will, My Vow — the planting of love in every human heart. The Lord is love (prema); love is the highest Atma (Paramatma). If you fill your heart with love, hatred, envy, greed, and egoism cannot enter it. There will be no devastation for a loved-filled earth.
SSS 2.28: December 25, 1961, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume02/sss02-28.pdf
The vital issue is the oneness: one caste, one class, one creed of humanity: and this can be achieved only by the surrender of one's self or ego to pure, selfless, universal love and devotion.
God Lives in India, p.8
When the Divine comes down as Avatar… it is only for one purpose. You recognise only the momentary results of the advent. But you should note that the Divine comes as Avatar only to teach mankind the truth about love. Oh man, it is because you lack love and are filled with selfishness that the world is plunging in so much conflict and chaos. It is only when you develop love and the spirit of sacrifice that you will realise the divinity that is in the human.
SSS 21.25: September 3, 1988, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume21/sss21-25.pdf
God is love, and love is selflessness. Selflessness is the abolition of all sense of the ego and separateness, of all spurious identification with the isolationist life of that counterfeit thing called 'self' (ego); self (ego) is separateness, and separateness is the denial of wholeness, holiness, God. … The Godward process called 'self-sacrifice' is, in its essence, love. For God is love, and love alone can lead to Him. … Love must be totally selfless to be Godward, to be Divine. Its criterion must be, 'the Beloved, first'; its technique must be 'your happiness before mine'. The way to happiness is to forget oneself and to remember God.
Sathyam Shivam Sundaram, 4.6, Sathya
Sai Baba's letter to students
Love alone is the fruit of love. Love is its own
witness. There is no trace of self-interest in it.
Because love exists for its own sake, it has no fear. It is to teach humanity
the way of love that Avatars come into the world.
SSS 21.25: September 3, 1988, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume21/sss21-25.pdf
You must recognise this love as but a reflection of the Premaswarupa, (the embodiment of Love) that is your reality, the God who is residing in your heart. Without that spring of Love that bubbles in your heart, you will not be prompted to love at all. Recognise that spring, rely on it more and more, develop its possibilities, try to irrigate the whole world with it, discard all touch of self from it, do not seek anything in return for it from those to whom you extend it. In your daily affairs, do not create factions, or revel in hatred. See the good in others and the faults in yourselves. Revere others as having God installed in them; revere yourself also as the seat of God. Make your heart pure so He can reside therein.
SSS 5.17: March 26, 1965, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume05/sss05-17.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu asks his followers to protect their faith in his
claims and use love to spread that faith to others. He asks that it be spread
so that the world will think that Sathya Sai Baba is communicating through
him.
2. Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that love is selfless, has no self
interest and seeks no reward. To love others with a view to derive some
benefit from them is not selfless love as it is based on the self-interest of
deriving benefits from others.”
QUESTIONS
1. If Madhusudan
Naidu is in communication with Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why is he promoting love
with a view to benefit from it, rather than selfless love?
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Should we believe Swami or others?
In a 2002
discourse, translated by B N Narasimhamurthy, Swami warned against putting our
faith in others:
Love everyone. But do not trust everyone without
discrimination. One who puts his trust wholly in others is headed for ruin.
SSS 35.9: May 6, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-09.pdf
Swami's personal attendant Satyajit Salian spoke of an
incident that happened in his presence in the interview room in Prashanti
Nilayam. Sri B N Narasimhamurthy visited a young boy in Bangalore who claimed
that Swami spoke through him:
So this gentleman was sitting next to Swami and the other gentleman was also sitting at Swami's Lotus Feet and as the discussion went on he started talking about a young boy of 14, who was somewhere in Bangalore who used to claim that Swami speaks through him. And this gentleman was telling "Swami I have gone to the place and seen this boy. They are from a beautiful family, a very simple family and this boy has a resplendent tejas (glow) on his face. He looks very innocent Swami so obviously it should be true". And he was trying to convince Swami telling that "It is true Swami that You go to his body and speak". Swami listened for a while and I will never forget the intensity with which Swami rebuked this gentleman. "You have been here, close to Me for so many years! How could you even bring this up in My presence? Don't you have any common sense? Do you have any common sense or not? What business do I have to enter that dirty body? If I want to talk to somebody else I can figure out the way! If I need to speak to somebody I can speak directly"!
This was the rebuke, this was the strong reaction from Swami…. After Swami went to Darshan, this gentleman comes to me and again he reiterates the whole thing saying "I have gone Sathyajit, I have seen him (the medium)". I was looking at him (thinking) "Come on sir, just now you got whacked and you are again trying to convince me"?
Talk by Satyajit Salian, February 22, 2014,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbCTvS89msQ
Sri B N Narasimhamurthy is the originator of the stories
that Swami is living in a subtle body in Muddenahalli and communicating through
Madhusudan Naidu. He did not listen to Swami when Swami directly rebuked him
for believing Swami was using an intermediary. Swami also clearly told him
"If I need to speak to somebody I can speak directly". Yet even after
this he tried to convince Satyajit that Swami was speaking through this boy. He
is now trying to convince all of us of a similar claim - that Swami is
communicating through Madhusudan Naidu. Should we believe Sri Sathya Sai Baba or
B Narasimhamurthy?
Swami also told Narasimhamurthy to stay in Puttaparthi:
After some days, he came to Me again and said, “Swami, mother passed away.” I comforted Narasimha Murthy and said, “Narasimha Murthy, stay here itself. Don’t leave Puttaparthi. This is your birthplace. Swami is your mother. I will look after everything.” Narasimha Murthy’s mother was a noble soul. She would often say, “Narasimha Murthy, even in adverse situations, don’t go away from Swami. Stay with Him always.”
SSS 37.4: January 27, 2004, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume37/sss37-04.pdf
Has Narasimhamurthy followed what Swami asked him to do?
Sri C Srinivas is a member of the Muddenahalli team who was heavily
involved in the construction of the Sathya Sai Sanjeevani hospital in Raipur.
Swami once spoke publicly of an incident where C Srinivas was trying to act as
an intermediary between Swami and a devotee, carrying the requests of this
devotee to Swami and trying to persuade Swami to accept fancy cars:
Here is a small matter Swami wants to tell. The other day, a devotee came and told that since My cars had become old, he wanted to replace them with new cars. He brought the cars. Three days passed. I did not even look at him. What is the reason? I already have a sufficient number of cars. I have no desire to move about in fancy big cars. I do not accept anything from anyone. When I was coming here, Srinivas came to Me and said, "That person is feeling miserable. Please accept the cars." I told him, "Do not interfere. He can take back his cars. In fact, I am ready to give My own car. Rather, I will give you two cars; you and he can take one each." Develop the spirit of sacrifice and set an example before others. I have been practising this since My childhood. If you follow the path shown by Me, you will become blessed. This path will lead you to liberation. It is liberation that is the goal of life.
An excerpt
from this discourse can also be heard on Youtube:
SUMMARY
1. Mr B Narasimhamurthy told devotees in 2011 that Sri Sathya Sai Baba
was visiting him in his dreams and giving him messages for others, something
that Swami said He doesn't do.
2. Sri Sathya Sai Baba says "do not trust everyone without
discrimination. One who puts his trust wholly in others is headed for
ruin." (SSS 35.9).
3. Mr B Narasimhamurthy
went to visit a boy in Bangalore who claimed that Sri Sathya Sai Baba was
speaking through him. He came to Puttaparthi and attempted to convince
Swami's attendant that Swami was speaking through the boy.
4. Mr Narasimhamurthy was severely chastised by Swami for believing
this boy's claim. Instead of believing Swami's own direct words to him, as
soon as Swami left the room Mr Narasimhamurthy again tried to convince
Swami's attendant that Swami was speaking through the boy. He is now trying
to convince us that Swami communicates through Madhusudan Naidu.
5. After Mahasamadhi, Mrs Narasimhamurthy left the post that Swami had
given him in the organisation and moved to Muddenahalli. He then started claiming
that Swami was speaking to him in his dreams and then to a former student,
Madhusudan Naidu. He created a separate trust from the Sri Sathya Sai Central
Trust and started encouraging devotees to come to Muddenahalli rather than
Puttaparthi.
6. Sri Sathya Sai Baba had asked him to never leave Puttaparthi and
his own mother had told him not to leave Swami.
7. C Sreenivas attempted to act as an intermediary for a man who
wanted to replace Swami's cars with what Swami describes as fancy new cars.
8. Swami told Sreenivas to mind his business, that He didn't take
anything from anyone, that He didn't require cars and was prepared to even
give away His own cars to Sreenivas and the other man.
QUESTIONS
1. Looking at the behaviour of these leaders
of the Muddenahalli movement, both during Swami's lifetime and after, should
we place our faith in what they are saying or in what Swami has told us?
2. Should we believe Sri Sathya Sai Baba's words that He needs no
intermediary, or believe B Narasimhamurthy who again claims
that he has found a boy whom Swami speaks through?
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Misrepresentation of people's words
In order to
support their claims, the Muddenahalli group are misrepresenting people and
information to create the perception of legitimacy.
For
example, they are attempting to use a discussion that Uncle Jega Jagadeesan had
with Swami in order to justify their activities. Muddenahalli supporters,
including through the Sai Uvacha
website, are using a quote from Jega's discussion with Swami about mediums in
order to justify Muddenahalli’s claims:
Bhagavan Baba Himself has on many occasions urged devotees not to be taken up by mediums and others. However, after my experiences and research, I decided to ask Him about it. On one occasion when I had the opportunity I raised this subject and made specific reference to the experiences I had undergone and He replied: ‘Yes! These are true – but the reason why Swami discourages is because for every truth there are a hundred false!’.
However, this partial narration of the conversation gives
a false impression that Jega was asking whether Swami used mediums. Jega gives a
more complete description of the conversation in his book, Journey to God part 4 - The Fourth Dimension, and records that he
was actually asking Swami if two Malaysian mediums who were manifesting Devi
and Murugan were legitimate:
"I have asked Swami about the "Muruga Phenomenon" at the time he blessed the book. The conversation went something like this:
Jega: Bhagavan I know you have talked against this whole phenomenon of trance. But in this case, in the case of this uncle (and I mentioned his name - and also that of a young girl who at that time was manifesting an incredibly powerful trance phenomenon of Shakti, "Divine Mother" - but that is another story and I may refer to it later), I cannot believe these are false! Please Bhagavan (I pleaded) tell me what is true!
Baba: (Smiling gently and sensing the earnestness of my query replied) “Yes! This is true. But do you know why Swami discourages? For every true there are a hundred false!”
Jega Jagadeesan, Journey to God, part 4 -
The Fourth Dimension, p.7
Thus the quote used, either intentionally or
unintentionally, gives the impression that Swami confirmed that He does
sometimes speak through people, which is not the case.
Furthermore, to give the appearance of greater support
for Muddenahalli's claims, quotes and video footage of talks by Jega and fellow
long-term devotee, Dr P V Shankar, are featured on the Muddenahalli website, Sai Uvacha. Jega has confirmed that he
does not believe the claims that Swami is communicating with Madhusudan Naidu
via a 'light body'. Jega has also confirmed that he has never been contacted or
asked for permission to use his footage or quotes on the website, making this
is an unethical use of his material by Muddenahalli followers.
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SUMMARY
1. Muddenahalli supporters have quoted
from Jega Jagadeesan's discussion with Sri Sathya Sai Baba about mediums in
order to justify Madhusudan's claim that he communicates with Baba.
2. Jega was actually asking Swami if two Malaysian
mediums who were manifesting Devi and Murugan were legitimate, not whether
Swami was manifesting through the mediums.
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Exaggerated claims and misinformation
Former student V Kumar is now one of the members of
Madhusudan Naidu’s entourage, travelling the world and speaking about Sukshma
Baba.
For a time, V Kumar lived in Australia and he was the
National Youth Coordinator for Australia during 2005 – 2006. During this time
he lived in Melbourne, Victoria. In a talk he gave in the USA on June 20 2015
Kumar claimed that there were no active youth in any of the centres in his
region of Victoria at the time he arrived.
I asked the chairperson, "Sir, I don't see any youth here. Is something wrong, or are they on a service project? Or have they gone somewhere else?" The chairperson said, "We haven't seen them for a long time." I said, "Really, then what about the other centres?" He said, "It is the same everywhere." I asked him for a list of all the youth who were registered in the centre. He gave me the list and said they were all passive. Nobody was active.
V Kumar, Encinitas California, June 20,
2015
This interaction took place at Nunawading Sai Centre,
which did actually have active Sai youth although attendance at regional youth
activities at the time was moderate. In 2000 the chairperson of the Melbourne
Sai Centre was a youth and there were also many active youth in that centre.
Kumar’s claim that there were no active youth is therefore not accurate.
Kumar then claimed that in the first 18 months of his
stay the youth numbers grew to 350:
His love touched them, and 15 became 350 in a matter of 1½ years. 350!
V Kumar, Encinitas California, June 20,
2015
To clarify this statement, the figure of 350 Kumar is
quoting is the total number of youth in the region, not at the Nunawading
centre he attended.
Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that He is omnipresent:
Hislop: Swami says that God is omnipresent. What meaning does Swami give to the word, 'omnipresent'?
Sai: Omnipresent means everywhere at the same time, all the time.
However, Kumar attempts to attribute the growth in youth numbers
to Sukshma Baba, the subtle form, rather than Sri Sathya Sai Baba’s
omnipresence:
Swami wasn't there in Australia in the physical form — that was His Subtle Form. Yet, He touched the youth, spoke to them, encouraged them, and inspired them.
V Kumar, Encinitas California, June 20,
2015
In 2006 Kumar took the Australian Youth contingent to
Prashanti Nilayam:
In 2006, Swami permitted all the youth to come to Puttaparthi. Even before they landed, Swami started asking Me, "Where are they? When are they coming?" The moment Swami came out, He said, "Have they come? I would like to talk to them." He poured so much love on them, it's unbelievable. He made them sing in Prasanthi Nilayam. He made them sit along with the University boys there, with the Sai students. He said, "I have no difference between the Sai students and the youth. Both are one!" Never in the history of Prasanthi Nilayam had this happened!
V Kumar, Encinitas California, June 20,
2015
Swami did give a lot of attention to the youth and He did
say that there was no difference between the Sai students and the Australian
youth. This is indeed unprecedented.
Kumar claims that all the youth came to Puttaparthi,
however to clarify this, there were only 138 youth there, not the 350 he had
previously spoken about. (See the record of the Australian Sai youth interview:
http://www.saiaustralia.org.au/youth/sya-interview-2006.pdf).
Kumar then claims:
Today, that 350 is more than 1,000, and it keeps growing.
This is not accurate. There are not today and have never
been 1000 Sai youth in the whole of Australia, let alone the state of Victoria.
This is a gross exaggeration.
Kumar also claims that:
Recently, when Swami was in Australia in His Subtle Form, He asked me, "How many youth will come?" I said, "Swami, 15 or 20." Swami smiled and said, "You're mad! You will have more than 300!"
There were approximately 300 – 350 attendees in total at
the gathering in Australia, not 300 youth. This is again a gross exaggeration.
This figure was confirmed in V Kumar’s talk on January 4 2015 in Muddenahalli:
There was a large crowd which expanded to about 300-350 people by the last day.
Email from Gerald Dominick (Sai Surya)
04/01/15
There is an element of exaggeration to many of the claims
that Kumar has made during this talk. Did Swami condone this kind of
exaggeration?
What you have heard and seen must be spoken out, without exaggeration or abridgement; that is sathya or truth speaking.
SSS 5.22: March 29, 1965, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume05/sss05-22.pdf
Be sincere; talk only about your genuine experience; do not distort, exaggerate or falsify that experience.
SSS 4.40: November 26, 1964, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume04/sss04-40.pdf
So, see that no trace of falsehood contaminates your transactions in these organisations. Truth is My nature, My Mission, My Message. Organisations bearing My Name have to be strictly adhering to Truth.
SSS 7.46: December 20, 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-46.pdf
Understand what has been conveyed to you and explain to your fellow devotees. Devotion has to be cultivated in a silent and sincere manner. Do not spoil your lives by resorting to untruthful ways. Sathyam bruyath (speak the truth). Truth is God. Hence, lead a truthful life and ultimately merge in truth.
SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
Speak so that your language is as sweet as your feelings are. Make the words true and pleasing. (Sathyam brooyaath; priyam brooyaath). But, for the sake of pleasing another, do not speak falsehood or exaggerate.
SSS 4.21: July 29, 1964, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume04/sss04-21.pdf
Do not do bad acts in the name of God. If you are unable
to do good, at least keep quiet and stay out. There is no need for you to make
all kinds of wild promises…
Swami spoke of His own example in this regard as well:
I have never deceived or let down anybody; nor will I
ever do so. Untruth will not be uttered by Me. My wish is that no such
undesirable act should be perpetrated on any of the genuine devotees.
SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
Madhusudan says that those who believe in him follow
their hearts, those who do not believe are caught up in their minds, yet Swami
said:
Those who speak from the heart speak the truth; others, whose speech does not come from the heart, speak untruth to suit the occasion.
SSS 31.44: November 24, 1998, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume31/sss31-44.pdf
Incorrect
claims about Swami's early life
On the 20th
of October 2015 Madhusudan Naidu chose to make some sensational claims during a
talk he gave about Avatar Declaration day. These claims differ widely to Sathya
Sai Baba's own statements, yet Madhusudan claims that these statements come
from Sathya Sai Baba's subtle form.
Madhusudan spoke
about Sri Sathya Sai Baba's childhood in Uravakonda:
As long as we continue to have the sense of difference between myself and others definitely we will be in the darkness of ignorance. Only when we experience the oneness of all creation that is the time we get rid of all sorrows, attachments and anguish. We have been listening to very good expositions to the Krishna leelas. It is not only the Krishna leelas, those days many Sai leelas happened also. When I was 14 years old, on the invitation of the municipal commissioner, I went to Hampe.
This is different to the facts stated both by Swami and in
His official biography. As noted by Professor Kasturi in Sathya Sivam Sundaram
Vol 1:
"It was at this time that a group of townsmen from Hospet (a town in Karnataka) consisting of the Deputy Inspector of Schools, some Municipal Councillors and merchants, approached Seshama Raju with an invitation to Bhagawan to visit their town".
Note that there was no mention of the municipal commissioner
that Madhusudan claimed invited him? Swami also mentioned in a discourse that
it was the Corporation Commissioner of Bellary, not the municipal commissioner,
who hosted them.
It happened when I was at Uravakonda. The Corporation
Commissioner of Bellary
If Madhusudan is simply repeating Swami's words, why do his
words not match what Swami said while in the body?
Madhusudan then basically repeats, with some embellishment,
what Swami said in His discourse on 20 October 2002 about Swami accepting a
collar pin and then losing it, triggering His declaration of Avatarhood.
Because she went on praying even Seshama Raju was angry. He spoke to me harshly, "Such a big commissioner is telling you and you are not listening to him." As they all put pressure on me I accepted. I came back with the coloured pin, on my shirt collar, to Uravakonda. As I was going from home to school it happened that the pin fell somewhere. I was not sad that I lost the pin. Keeping that pin from the commissioner was a big job. I really didn't care for it. I thought the coloured pin was a big burden because the commissioner would come and ask me where it was. But the coloured pin was lost. Illusion was lost. I called everybody and called the commissioner and sat on a rock.
What Madhusudan has stated about the commissioner here is
completely inaccurate and not borne out by the facts: the commissioner was from
Bellary not Uravakonda and was not present for these events. Swami said that He
entered the garden of the local Excise Commissioner, Hanumantha Rao:
I threw away the books and entered the garden of the
Excise Commissioner Hanumantha Rao
Madhusudan then claims that it was actually two
of Swami's earliest devotees who sang Manasa Bhajare, not Swami Himself:
There were the earliest devotees Hanumantha and Anjaneyulu. All of them prayed to me, "Instead of staying in the garden come to our house." I dont have any relationships, attachments or family. I came for my devotees. On the 20th October 1940 I told this Truth. Hanumantha and Anjaneyulu came and sat at my feet and sang the song Manasa Bhajare Guru Charanam whilst sitting there.
This is completely inaccurate. It was of course Swami who sang
Manasa bhajare, not Sri Anjaneyulu and Hanumantha Rao as per Madhusudan's
claims. It is hard to believe that Swami would get this detail incorrect.
Madhusudan next gets a very basic early story of Swami wrong.
This story concerns Swami sitting on a chair belonging to one of his relatives
and the relative berating Him for doing this:
One day I was sitting on the chair of my brother
Seshama Raju. He came with a stick and beat me up. He was a school teacher. He
was very angry, "I am a school teacher. You are just a small boy. How dare
you come and sit on my chair!" Then I told him, "A time will come
when you will get a silver chair for me and I will sit in it majestically and
you will come and see that." Even that happened!
This is also not correct. It was Subba Raju, Seshama Raju's
brother in law who accosted Sathya, not Swami's brother, Seshama Raju:
Two days before His Birthday (in 1946), devotees requested Baba to permit them to unpack the crate containing the silver chair sent for Him earlier, by some Madras devotees. Baba laughed but did not say anything. Just then Subba Raju, the brother-in-law of Seshama Raju came to the Mandir. Baba called him and asked him to open the crate and told us that Subba Raju alone should take out te chair and dust it, before it could be used on the Birthday. We could not understand this strange order, but Subba Raju did so very well.
Shedding tears, Subba Raju explained, "Bhagawan stayed together with us in Kamalapuram, together with Seshama Raju and his wife (my sister) some years ago. He had to bring pots of water from a distant place for our use. One day He sat on a wooden chair and started rocking it back and forth on its two legs. I shouted at Him and asked Him to get out of the chair. Stung to the quick, He said that one day He would sit on a silver chair, which I would wipe and keep clean for His use. His words have come true today".
Nectarine Leelas of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai
Baba, p.35.
This story can be viewed online:
Muddenahalli
the site of Vishwamitra's ashram?
Madhusudan claimed in his talk on October 20, 2015, that
Muddenahalli is the site of Vishwamitra's ashram as well as the place where
Rama killed the demoness Tataka:
You may not believe it but this place is a very meritorious place. It is a land of penance. All this area was there in the Vishwamitra ashram in Threta Yuga. Rama and Lakshmana fought Tataka and killed many demons here.
This is neither true nor accurate. Vishvamitra's ashram was
located in North India. Known as Siddhashrama, it was located beside the Ganga
near the modern town of Baksara (Buxar) in Bihar. The description of the route
to the ashram was recorded in the Valmiki Ramayana. Rama, Lakshmana and
Vishwamitra spent the night at Kamasram, located at the confluence of the Ganga
and Sarayu. The following morning they crossed the Ganga and entered Tataka's
region, the kingdoms of Malada and Karosa - which are located in North India.
More importantly, Sri Sathya Sai Baba also confirmed this in
Ram Katha Rasavahini part 1. In the chapter "The Call and the First
Victory", Swami describes how after staying at the ashram where Shiva
destroyed Manmatha (Kama) Rama, Lakshmana and Vishwamitra crossed the Ganga and
found themselves in Tataka's forest, located in the kingdoms of Malada and
Karosa. Vishwamitra told them that
"The jungle in which that vile ogress lives is at a distance of a yojana (9 miles) and a half from here".
So this is approximately 15.3km from the Ganga. The distance
between Baksara and Muddenahalli however, is approximately 1882 kilometres,
according to http://www.distancebetweencities.co.in.
Muddenahalli is therefore nowhere near Tataka's forest.
After killing Tataka, Sri Sathya Sai Baba describes how Rama,
Lakshmana and Vishwamitra resumed their journey:
"Viswamitra then proposed to resume the journey and the three of them started footing their way along. A little distance later, they entered a region of high-peaked hills. Their eyes fell on a charming garden, the fragrance of which welcomed them and refreshed their bodies and minds. The brothers were curious to know who owned that lovely spot. They asked the Sage to enlighten them. Viswamitra replied, “Son, this is the holy area which the gods choose when they come down on earth to practise austerity for the success of their desires. The great Kasyapa did penance here and won his goal. The place confers victory on all holy efforts. So it is named, Siddhasram, the Hermitage of Achievement! I have myself taken residence here, with the intention of cultivating Dedication and Surrender. This hermitage is the target of attack for demons who intercept and befoul every holy rite done here".
Ramakatha Rasavahini Part 1, pp. 113-114, http://www.srisathyasai.org.in/Pdf/Ramakatha_RasaVahini-I.pdf
According to Sri Sathya Sai Baba, Vishwamitra's ashram was
located in North India, not far from the banks of the Ganga. Madhusudan's claim
that Muddenahalli is the site of Vishwamitra's ashram is therefore entirely
baseless. The distinction is very clear here - we can either believe Swami, or
we can believe Madhusudan.
Swami did however say the following about Puttaparthi:
"Maharshi Valmiki had
meditated in Puttaparthi. There were a lot of ant hills in Puttaparthi due to
the presence of which it gained the name Puttaparthi. In the place where the
mandir stood, there was a forest
full of tulasi. Swami revealed that Lord Narayana as a rishi had meditated
there. Referring to Himself, He said that the same rishi had reincarnated
now".
Sri Sathya Sai Anandadayi, pp.46-47).
On October 31, 2015, Madhusudan again attempted to reiterate
his claim:
In olden days Muddenahalli was the place where Sage
Vishwamitra’s ashram was. Even Nandigrama was an ashrama. That is why finally
Bharata also stayed in Nandigrama. The first ashram to be established here
belonged to Vishwamitra and he made Rama install the first Shivalinga here.
Therefore, this place is a very meritorious, sacred and pure. I knew all this
when I came here the first time. That’s why I called this the land of penance,
‘Tapobhoomi’.
Talk by Madhusudan Naidu, 31 October, 2015,
http://saivrinda.org/updates/divine-discourse-on-october-31-2015-summary/
Madhusudan
claims to be in contact with the subtle body of Sri Sathya Sai Baba. Why then
do his claims contradict what Sri Sathya Sai Baba said while He was alive?
End of the Kali Yuga?
Madhusudan then claims that the Kali Yuga ended on October
23, 2015 during the Athi Rudra Maha Yagna:
Arthi (sic) Rudra Maha Yagna is a scared (sic - sacred) time. It is a time of transition. Kali Yuga is ending and Sathya Yuga is beginning. It is not Sathya Yuga it is PREMA Yuga.
However it has been well documented that Sri Sathya Sai Baba
told Dr John Hislop that the Kali Yuga lasts for 11,000 years and still has
thousands of years to go:
In Dwapara Yuga, before Kali Yuga, 5680 years back, milk came into favour. Eleven thousand years is the full length of the Kali Yuga…. There are four Yugas. The sequence is circular, and when the last is finished, the whole cycle starts all over again. Kali Yuga still has 5,320 years before ending.
Prema Sai to be based in Muddenahalli?
In order to make Muddenahalli seem even more special,
Madhusudan then claims that Prema Sai will base His mission out of
Muddenahalli:
Here lodging facilities are not enough. I am going to build more and more houses to accommodate devotees. Also I will create all the facilities for them. Next year all kinds of canteens will start here. Apart from canteens a hospital will also be start. For people staying here all types of facilities will be available for them. We can go and see a big hall is being built. To think that this hall is being built for Swami is not the complete truth. In the future Prema Sai is going to come and give darshan in that hall.
Madhusudan then admits to using fear to motivate people into
doing things for him.
Narasimhamurthy was asking, "Swami, do we need such a big hall?" "If you were to give darshan a hall is not required. If I am to give darshan a big hall is required." You have to do it for my sake. I am giving them a lot of work. Only when I give a lot of work they think of me. When they think the task is impossible then they think of God. Small projects they can do without thinking of me. When I give them big projects naturally they will come to me, pray to me say, "Swami you have to help us and grant us strength." Among all devotees this kind of fear leads to devotion. That is fear and devotion.
What did Sri Sathya Sai Baba say about fear and love?
Love knows no fear. Love shuns falsehood. Fear drags the human into falsehood, injustice and wrong. Love does not crave for praise. That is its strength. Only those who have no love in them itch for reward and reputation. The reward for love is love itself.
But the love of the Divine is devoid of any trace of self-interest. It is love for the sake of love alone. This is called bhakti (devotion). One characteristic of this love is to give and not to receive. Secondly, love knows no fear. Thirdly, it is only for love’s sake and not for selfish motive.
SSS 27.1: 1 January 1994, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume27/sss27-01.pdf
Yet Madhusudan claims that Sri Sathya Sai Baba now uses fear
to get devotion? Swami further says:
The Upanishads say that the human is a spark of Divine Love, encased in five sheaths… But the tangles of fear, greed, egoism and aggrandisement do not allow the spark to grow and illumine the sheaths as well as the world around.
So according to Sri Sathya Sai Baba, fear and love are
mutually exclusive. If Madhusudan Naidu is really in communication with the
subtle body of Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why would the words of that subtle body contradict
Sri Sathya Sai Baba on the very heart of His mission - Love?
When I went saw the hall, a few days back, even I could not believe that it could happen. Now, I have gained complete faith that because our students are working it will be complete.
Swami used to say "Sai Sankalpa is Vajrasankalpa. What
I will must happen". Swami said Himself that He didn't have doubts. Why
then if Sathya Sai Baba had willed this hall to be finished in time, would He
say that He doubted it would be finished and then that after seeing it He had
gained complete faith that it would be finished? The
simple fact is that this isn't Sathya Sai Baba, it is simply someone imitating
Him.
Madhusudan then claims that Prema Sai will live in
Muddenahalli:
Sathya Sai Avatar will continue to be here for some years. After some time I will come back as Prema Sai. I will stay in this ashram and even teach Truth.
He will even teach Truth. Wow. That
would be a change. Isn't teaching the Truth supposed to be what he is doing
now, considering that he started this rather mistake riddled talk by claiming
"Aham Sathya Bodhaka" - "I am the Teacher of Truth"? We
know he was only reusing a quote from one of Swami's discourses in imitation of
Sri Sathya Sai Baba when he said that. But we still have to ask about his claim
to now start teaching the Truth - Is this perhaps a slip of the tongue? Is
Madhsusudan admitting that he doesn't currently speak the Truth? If he is
saying that in the future he will "even teach Truth", like it's
something wonderful and different to what he is doing now, doesn't that imply
that he's admitting to not currently speaking the truth? Let's hope that this
is a new year's resolution for him, or maybe in his case, a new yuga's
resolution, and that we will now start to see him speaking the Truth about what
he is doing. In any case, I won't hold my breath.
Even before the rains come a farmer will prepare the land.
In the same way I am preparing the place. Not only am I getting the place ready
I am tilling your hearts. I am waiting to remove self-interest and selfishness
from your hearts and sow the seeds of love. When the rain comes then it will be
useful. Taking a part in this huge task you will also find fulfillment in your
lives. Earlier that was the declaration. Today this is the declaration.
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SUMMARY
1. V Kumar claims that there were no active youth in his centre or
region when he arrived.
2. A member of the centre's youth group has confirmed that there were
active youth, both in the centre and in the region, including a youth who was
centre chairperson of the Melbourne centre at the time.
3. V Kumar says that the youth grew from 15 to 350 in 18 months. This
is correct, however to clarify, this was youth in the region, not youth in the
centre he attended.
4. Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that He is omnipresent and defines this as
being everywhere at the same time, all the time.
5. However V Kumar attempts to attribute this growth in youth numbers to
the subtle body, saying that Swami was not there in Australia.
6. Kumar then says that Swami permitted all the youth to come to
Puttaparthi. To clarify, there were approximately 138 youth on that trip, not
the 350 Kumar had previously spoken about
7. Kumar then claims that the youth in Australia have grown from 350
to 1000 and it keeps growing.
8. This is a gross exaggeration, there has never been 1000 youth in
the whole of Australia, let alone in Victoria.
9. Madhusudan told him that there would be 300 youth at the retreat in
Australia in December 2014, however Kumar confirmed in a talk in January that
there were only 300 -350 people in total on the last day of the retreat, not
300 youth. This is again an exaggeration.
10. Sri Sathya Sai Baba asked us to speak the truth without
exaggerating.
QUESTIONS
1. Sri Sathya Sai Baba was very particular that we speak the truth
without exaggerating. Why does 'Sukshma Baba' then allow exaggeration from
those speaking in his presence?
2. If Madhusudan Naidu is communicating with Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why
is it that he predicted 300 youth would attend the retreat when in there were
only a maximum of 300 - 350 people (including adults) in total by the last
day of the retreat?
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On Swami travelling to other countries
Madhusudan Naidu claims that since He has 'retired
from His job' at Puttaparthi, Sri Sathya Sai Baba is now free to travel the
world:
So now I am free to travel wherever I want. I am retired
from that job and now I am free. Now I have come wherever I was called. Besides, it will
have taken a lot of effort for all of you to arrange My visit here. And if I
visit one country, all other countries will feel bad. How could I abandon those poor
and needy and the people in distress, for whose sake, I have primarily come.
He also
tells the foreign devotees that now they have to visit him in Muddenahalli:
Now that I have come here, you have to come to me.
Q and A session with Madhusudan Naidu in
Tokyo, Japan, March 15, 2015, p.5
Madhusudan and his supporters are using a statement
made by Sri Sathya Sai Baba at MahaShivarathri 2007 in order to justify
travelling to other countries around the world to gather donations:
I intend to undertake a world tour, shortly.
SSS 40.5: February 16, 2007, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume40/sss40-05.pdf
While Swami did say
that He would undertake a world tour, He did not elaborate and no plans were
made for this to happen. On previous occasions when Swami was asked when He
would come to their country, He would reply "Do I need a plane to come to
your country"?
Something similar
happened at MahaShivarathri 1962. After producing the lingam, Swami stayed
seated, seemingly stiff and unresponsive for 55 minutes, having left His body
as He used to do in those days. Those around Him thought that He must have gone
to the rescue of a devotee in danger. After 50 minutes people were getting
anxious and some devotees were in tears. Finally after 55 minutes Swami seemed
to regain awareness of His surroundings:
Fifty five ... Ah ... a slight movement of the fingers ... of the left hand! The hand came down ... I broke into tears ... His eyes opened ... He saw! He smiled! Fear and doubt vanished shamefacedly from the gathering. Baba rose ... the fateful minutes were over!
Baba went into the Nilayam, and when some of us, including Dr. Bhagavantham followed Him, He said that He had gone on a Manasa-sanchara (mind tour), round the World!
Sathyam Sivam Sundaram pt 3, pp. 228-229,
http://www.vahini.org/downloads/sathyamsivamsundaram-III.html
Dr John Hislop once
asked Swami when He would come to America:
Hislop: Swami, please excuse this question, but it is in everyone's mind. Will Swami come to America soon?
SAI: Baba will delay
until a further base is built in America . However, I can go informally
anytime. The devotee need only call me and I will appear at once. Swami has his
work to renew India. This must be finished before he is willing to do the same
in a foreign country. People generally go to a foreign country with a desire of
some sort. Baba has no desire. Of course foreign individuals come to Baba.
Swami said that He would not travel to other
countries until He had reformed India. What did Swami say of those who travel
abroad gathering donations?
There are some people who are doing business in the Name of Sai. They are cheating others, pretending to be devotees of Sai. I do not approve of such behaviour. They are not devotees at all. They are going to different parts of the country and also abroad to make money in the name of Sai. It is a big crime. I do not ask for even a single paisa from others. I never approve of such business. Whoever it may be, if somebody approaches you with such a crass motive, tell him to get out at once. Do not allow business to enter the field of spirituality. Swami never solicits donations from anybody, nor does He have agents for propagating His Message. I do not have any association whatsoever with these deceitful persons.
SSS 35.11: 22 July, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu says that Sri Sathya Sai Baba has retired from His
role in Puttaparthi and is now living in a subtle body in Muddenahalli. He
says that this subtle body can travel anywhere in the world in no time.
2. Sri Sathya Sai Baba says that the subtle body disintegrates after
death and only functions in the dream state while the person is alive.
3. Madhusudan and his team travel abroad to various countries, saying
that they are accompanying Swami's subtle body. Donations are collected while
they are on these trips.
4. Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that those who travel abroad to make money
in His name are perpetrating a crime and that He never solicits donations
from anyone, nor does He have agents for propagating His message.
5. Madhusudan Naidu and his followers claim that they are travelling
to overseas countries to fulfil Sri Sathya Sai Baba's statement that He would
undertake a world tour.
5. Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that He had to finish His work to renew
India before He would consider going to a foreign country.
QUESTIONS
1. Why is Madhusudan Naidu travelling around and collecting donations,
something that Swami clearly opposed?
2. Do we really believe that Swami's work of reforming India is
finished and therefore that He is now willing to travel to overseas
countries?
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Miracles
Madhusudan Naidu and psychic powers?
People
quote Madhusudan's ability to know what was said in interviews as proof that he
is in communication with Baba. Swami has often spoken about siddhis not being
any proof of claims to divinity and downplayed the importance attributed to miracles:
So called 'miracles' are not miracles, nor do they prove divinity.
This has been the case, in all ages. People may be very near (physically) to the Avathaar (divine incarnation), but, they live out their lives unaware of their fortune; they exaggerate the role of miracles, which are as trivial, when compared to My glory and majesty, as a mosquito is in size and strength to the elephant upon which it squats. Therefore, when you speak about these 'miracles,' I laugh within myself out of pity, that you allow yourself so easily to lose the precious awareness of My Reality.
SSS 12.38: June 19, 1974 http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume12/sss12-38.pdf
Swami also
said that His powers are not given to anyone else:
If somebody says Sai Baba's powers have been given to him, then we run to him. Sai Baba's powers are such that they are not given to anybody else. Nobody has the ability to take powers from Sai Baba, nor the ability to give them to someone else. Sai Baba's powers are not given like that, and you should not be led away by such statements. Each one's power is within him; it is not possible to give such power to another person. In this manner, by allowing a weak mind to get control over us, if we begin running from place to place, where are we going to get strength of mind, and control our own mind?
SSS 13.6: March 28, 1975, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume13/sss13-06.pdf
Sathya Sai
Baba was asked about the nature of His powers by R K Karanjia in 1976:
Q: So these are not siddhic powers or magical tricks, as your critics suggest?
Baba: They are neither magical tricks nor siddhic (occult) powers, which can come to everybody with the appropriate discipline and yoga exercises, but My powers to protect, heal and save people and materialize objects originate in God and can be used only by an Avatar. They are in no way designed, disciplined or developed, but flow from cosmic power.
Q: Some say that you command invisible spirits which can transfer objects from one place to another on your orders.
Baba: There is no need for Me to command invisible spirits since My own divine will materializes the objects. I am everything, everywhere, omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent; and so whatever I will, instantly happens.
Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that His powers are
not given to anyone and can be used only by an Avatar. He also warned of the
dangers of individuals cultivating or displaying siddhis (miraculous powers):
Some people remark that Ramakrishna Paramahamsa said that siddhis are obstructions in the path of the sadhaka (spiritual aspirant). Of course they are; he may be led astray by siddhis; he has to keep straight on without being involved in them. His ego will increase if he yields to the temptation of demonstrating his siddhis. This correct advice, which every sadhaka should heed.
SSS 4.45: December 13, 1964, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume04/sss04-45.pdf
There are
examples of individuals in the past who have developed psychic abilities,
however as Sri Sathya Sai Baba has said, this is no proof of Divinity.
Madhusudan
claims that He is able to hear the voice of Sri Sathya Sai Baba and relay what
He is saying. This is how he explains his apparent knowledge of people's
interactions with Sri Sathya Sai Baba, as well as His ability to give
discourses in a similar style to Sri Sathya Sai Baba. He pauses and listens and
then conveys what he says Baba is saying to him.
There have
also been well known individuals who have demonstrated apparent Divine powers,
however subsequent investigation has shown that there was a very worldly
explanation for their claimed Divine knowledge.
A prime
example was Christian televangelist Peter Popoff, who attained great popularity
from his ability to call people out of his audience and tell them their names,
ailments and other personal details. He would pause, listen and then call
people out of his audience by name, talking about their condition and personal
details. Investigators using electronic surveillance equipment found that he
had an in-ear receiver and was simply listening to and repeating what a person
in another room backstage was saying to him.
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SUMMARY
1. People quote Madhusudan Naidu's apparent knowledge of what was said
in their interviews as proof that he is in communication with Sri Sathya Sai
Baba.
2. Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that miracles are no proof of Divinity.
3. Madhusudan Naidu claims that he hears what Baba's subtle body says
to him and then communicates this information.
4. There have been examples of people in the past who have duplicated
this ability by using a wireless in-ear receiver, while having information
fed to them by another person.
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Materialisations
Madhusudan Naidu's supporters have claimed
since 2011 that Swami materialises things like rings, bracelets and chains in
his pockets to be given to devotees.
Some of them were blessed with rings and bracelets! Ah, yet again point I missed out! Whenever Swami wanted to give someone a gift like this, it would just appear in Madhusoodhan brother’s pocket, and Madhu brother just hands it over to the person!
Article
by G Narendran, http://childrenforsathyasai.org/blog/confessions-of-the-one-who-experienced/
In January 2015, Gerald Dominick (Sai
Surya) in his General
Introduction to Sukshma Baba, a document Madhusudan confirmed as being
correct, claimed that these objects were materialised in Madhusudan's pocket:
Sukshma is pure energy. As a result, it is not possible to materialize items anymore
but they do appear in Madhu pockets.
Then in March this information was
revised in and we were told instead:
Some people have received objects such as rings and neck chains. These were either placed in Madhu pocket ahead of time as Swami knew who was coming when. In other cases, the items were teleported. All these items had been purchased from jewelers (sic) according to specifications by Sukshma Baba.
Email
by Gerald Dominic (Sai Surya), March 28, 2015
Despite Gerald confirming in March
2015 that the 'materialisations' are just store bought items given out as
gifts, in April 2015 Connie Shaw wrote in her report on the Muddenahalli
meeting in Croatia:
Further, as
proof of Swami’s Presence, Baba manifested a breath-taking, diamond-encrusted
medallion of a standing Sai Baba, in a gold setting, for the excellent
translator, a humble doctor, which the physician
showed to me, backstage. No sleight-of-hand artist could have instantaneously
produced such a fine and expensive talisman, so lovingly made.
Connie
Shaw, Glory of God in Croatia, pp.4-5
Why has no one from the Muddenahalli
team advised Connie Shaw that the medallion was bought in a store, not
materialised?
Madhusudan and his supporters have been
allowing devotees to think that Swami is materialising these items in
Madhusudan's pocket. What did Swami say
about this kind of behaviour?
Magicians play their tricks for earning their maintenance, worldly fame, and wealth. They are based on falsehood and they thrive on deceit, but this body could never stoop to such a low level. This body has come through the Lord's resolve to come. That resolve is intended to uphold truth. Divine resolve is always true resolve. Remember there is nothing that divine power cannot accomplish. It can transmute earth into sky and sky into earth. To doubt this is to prove that you are too weak to grasp great things, the grandeur of the universe.
So far as I am concerned this is evidence of My divinity. It is not by any means an exhibition of divinity. All performances of magic, as you know are done for the sake of income. These are tricks of the magicians trade. They constitute a kind of legalized cheating, the transfer of an object from one place to another by a trick of the hand which goes unnoticed. They involve no siddhi (occult power) or miraculous power.
What I do is quite a different act of creation. It is neither magic, nor is it siddhi power either. For one thing, I seek no return. For another, I do not cheat people by transferring objects, but I create them. Again, I do so not because of any need or desire of exhibition of My powers. For Me this is a kind of calling card to convince people of My love for them and secure their devotion in return. Since love is formless, I do materialization as evidence of My love. It is merely a symbol.
God
Lives in India, pp.11-12
Even if there were evidence of genuine materialisations, Swami has also
spoken about the incredible yogic powers that human beings can acquire through
spiritual disciplines, which includes the creation of objects:
Hislop: When
reading, I found a passage saying that sage Viswamitra created a duplicate
universe. Could such a thing be possible?
Sai: Yes. The sage agreed to transport one
of his disciples to the heavenly regions with the disciple remaining in his
physical body. The Gods did not agree. Viswamitra became very angry and created
a universe, even though God came to him and asked him not to. Viswamitra
created even a pantheon of Gods in the subtle space and then transported his
disciple there in body. But that which is contrary to God's will cannot last,
and Viswamitra's universe did not endure.
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu's supporters
said that Swami now materialises things in Madhusudan's pockets.
2. They then admitted that the
jewellery he gives out is pre purchased in a shop and placed in Madhusudan's
pocket or 'teleported'.
3. Despite this, no one from the
Muddenahalli team corrected Connie Shaw when she claimed that Madhusudan
materialised a diamond studded Baba pendant. Connie herself claimed that no
sleight of hand artist could have produced the pendant.
4. Sathya Sai Baba described this
as a kind of legalised cheating and said that He does not cheat people by
transferring objects, He creates them. His power is also not a siddhi like
teleportation.
QUESTIONS
1. Why did it take the
Muddenahalli team four years to admit that Madhusudan Naidu is giving out
store bought jewellery, not materialised objects?
2. Materialisations of vibhuthi
are still occurring all around the world. If Swami is manifesting at
Muddenahalli, why would it now be impossible for Him to create jewellery as
He did while in the body?
3. Why have none of the
Muddenahalli team corrected Connie Shaw's testimony that Madhusudan
materialised a pendant in Croatia?
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Using psychic powers to draw devotees away
The demonstration of apparent
psychic powers to win over well known devotees is not new - this was happening
even in Swami's lifetime. In the early 1970's, Swami told Hislop that other
interests were attempting to use these apparent powers to draw him away from
Baba. He also cautioned Hislop against trusting those who seem to be devotees:
Hislop: I gave
Swami a ring created by a yogi. I did not want wear it and I didn't know what
to do with it. That is, I sent it up to Swami by a messenger with a note about
it.
Sai: That was
another attempt aimed at you by other interests. You are known as a devotee to
Baba, and it was an attempt to interest you elsewhere. Like that western city
matter. You should reject such attempts out-of-hand.
Hislop: But that
man from there said Swami stayed at his house.
SaiI: Not true.
That area is strongly Communist. At one time Baba did bring about genuine
evidence of His Sankalpa there, but ego and money-making arose, so Baba stopped things.
Again He allowed it, and now He has again stopped it. Those people, in fear of
loss of reputation, are now doing things by tricks.
Hislop: The man
seemed a very nice fellow.
Sai: Not so. There
is always good and bad in dualistic phenomena. When there is an Avatar, there
must always be bad. Rama's foster-mother was his enemy. Krishna's uncle was his
enemy even before he was born. Shirdi Baba was much abused.
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SUMMARY
1. Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that other interests have used apparent
miracles to try to draw away well-known devotees in the past. He asked Hislop
to reject such attempts out of hand.
2. He spoke of devotees who had experienced genuine manifestations of
His power who, after the manifestations stopped due to their ego and greed,
continued the appearance of manifestations through trickery.
3. Swami warned that when there is an Avatar there must always be bad
and pointed out examples showing that it is often it is those who are closest
to the Avatar who play the role of His enemies. (CWBSSSB, p.78)
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Col Bose's testimony
On May 13 2015, Colonel S K Bose, a long time devotee of
Swami who is currently Director of the Chaitanya Jyoti museum in Puttaparthi,
wrote an article about the powers attributed to Madhusudan Naidu, powers which
Swami said are no proof of Divinity and which were as insignificant to Him as a
mosquito on the back of an elephant. Colonel Bose writes:
The sad fact is that even long time devotees are not able
to tell the difference between real divine powers and siddhi powers obtained
for selfish ends. These psychic or occult powers can be attained by practice,
but there is nothing divine about them. Swami Vivekananda tells about such
powers of the mind. In Volume 2 of his Complete Works (copy of his article
“Power of the Mind” is enclosed for ready reference). He once heard of a man
who, if any one went to him with questions in his mind, would answer them
immediately and that he could foretell events. Swami Vivekananda tested this
man’s powers and found them to be true. However, nobody considered this man
divine.
As Swami Vivekananda admits, there have been charlatans,
there have been cheats and more here than in any other field, because the more
profitable the business, the greater the number of charlatans and cheats.
Swami Vivekananda had a very powerful mind, but he never displayed any occult or psychic powers. His Guru Swami Ramakrishna Paramahamsa forbade such display of powers as they would pull the aspirant down and away from the spiritual path. One of the commonest tricks is to read a man’s mind and tell him about events, which had taken place many years ago and which no one else knew about. Unfortunately devotees mistake these powers as signs of divinity and are impressed and influenced by them.
Sri Sathya Sai Baba has cautioned people against trying
to attain the ashtasiddhis (the eight yogic powers) as they will bind the
sadhak (aspirant). Thought reading is also fraught with dangers. In his book ‘
Life in Indian Monasteries’. Swami Bhaskarananda of the Ramakrishna Order says:
“Some other things also need to be explained here. Contrary to expectations of many, God-realised souls do not try to read others peoples thoughts unless they feel divinely inspired to do so. These great souls have a natural tendency to remain immersed in God. To try to know others people’s thoughts is usually against their nature. Staunchly established as they are in moral and ethical values, entering into other people’s private minds is considered highly unethical by them [see p.14].
In his book ‘Living with Himalayan Masters’, Swami Rama
narrates how he once met a Swami who could produce fire from his mouth. The flame
would shoot out several feet, so he concluded that this man must definitely be
more advanced than his master. He went to his master and told him that he had
found someone more advanced than him and had decided to become his disciple.
His master just smiled and said that he was delighted and asked to be taken to
him. To Swami Rama’s surprise the Swami bowed before his master. It
transpired that he was from the same monastery, but had left many years
earlier. On questioning further the Swami said that he had practised for twenty
years to master this power Swami Rama’s master said to him that a match will
produce this fire in a second so to spend twenty years for this was
foolishness. Swami Rama realized that mostly such phenomena are tricks and
spirituality has nothing to do with such powers. The third chapter of Yoga
Sutra explains many methods of attaining siddhis, but these create stumbling
blocks in the path of enlightenment, which is entirely different from the intentional
cultivation of powers.
Misuse of siddhis is the downfall for a sadhak (aspirant)
and established Swamijis. Sometimes psychic powers develop; you start telling the fortunes
of others and you start knowing things. These are all distractions. Too many
people, including Swamijis, have wasted time and energy on such distractions.
Anyone who wants to develop siddhis, can do so and can demonstrate certain supernatural feats, but enlightenment is an entirely different matter.(Pages 102 to 106) of ‘Living With Himalayan Masters'.
Swami Rama narrates another experience of how fake sadhus make their living. On his way to Rishikesh in 1973, Swami Rama met one Dr Rudolph Ballentine in New Delhi. This man was psychiatrist from USA and was going round Connaught place in New Delhi when a stranger called him by name and then abruptly told him the name of his girlfriend in England. The doctor asked him how could he know these things. Instead of answering he continued and told the doctor his date of birth and his grandfather’s name. Then the man told him something very personal, which no one except Dr Ballentine knew (sounds familiar). The doctor was impressed and thought, “This is the person for whom I have come to India.” The man asked for five dollars and said he would be back soon. Needless to say, he never came back. The following conversation then took place between Dr Ballentine and Swami Rama.
Dr Ballentine: Swamiji, he was a great man.
Swami Rama: What did he do?
Dr Ballentine: He told me all those personal things about myself although I was a complete stranger.
Swami Rama: Didn’t you already know these things?
Dr Ballentine: Yes.
Swami Rama: Then what big thing did he do? If somebody
knows what you are thinking, then obviously you know it too. This knowledge
does not improve you [spiritually] in any way.
This ability may amaze you for some time, but it cannot help anyone in self growth. Fakes like the one Dr Ballentine encountered are often disguised as sadhus and go about telling someone’s past and predicting the future. Naive people mistake them for great sages. These pretenders give a bad name to spirituality and to real spiritual people. (‘Living With Himalayan Masters’ by Swami Rama, pp.355-6).
It must be made clear the such people are found not only in New Delhi, but throughout the length and breadth of the country.
The following narration is by Satyajit about an incident, which took place inside the Interview Room in his presence. Swami was seated and there is this gentleman sitting at Swami’s lotus feet. He started talking about a young boy of 14, who lived somewhere in Bangalore and who claimed that Swami spoke through him. This gentleman was conveying to Swami that he had gone to that place and had seen the boy, who was from a very beautiful and simple family and that the boy had a glow on his face and a look of innocence. He asserted that the boy was obviously close to Swami and he was trying to convince Swami that the boy’s claim must be true that Swami went into his body and spoke through him. Swami listened for a while and became visibly furious. He severely reprimanded this gentleman in no uncertain terms. He said, “ You have been close to me for so many years. How could you even bring this up in my presence? Have you taken leave of all common sense that you could even dream of suggesting that I have to enter that dirty body. If I want to talk to somebody I can always find out means of talking to him directly and not do so through someone else.”
Satyajit was taken aback by the vehemence of Swami’s reaction. Somehow these kinds of things appeal to some people and they believe all this rubbish and they think this is an easy way out. Even after this strong rebuke from Swami this gentleman did not learn his lesson and after Swami left for darshan, he went to Satyajit and reiterated the whole thing and tried to convince him saying that he had personally seen the boy. Satyajit was taken aback that even after being castigated by Swami, this gentleman had not understood the basic fact that God does not allow any intermediary between Him and His devotee. It is this direct relationship which confers joy to the devotee; the direct joy of service, the direct joy of Sadhana.
There are no prizes for guessing who the gentleman (nb: Mr B N Narasimhamurthy) is in view of his present self-acclaimed high status. To believe in the need for an intermediary is nothing short of blasphemy.
Now about the happenings at Muddenahalli. Nobody bothered too much what Narasimhamurthy was saying and doing till Madhusudhan Naidu appeared on the scene. He started off with the commonest trick of reading the past and impressing people, particularly influential ones. His fame spread fast and so did his repertoire of gimmicks and antics. He was a good actor in his student days and also a good mimic. He could mimic Swami’s voice and now he improved upon his talent. Narasimhamurthy was quick to recognize the potential of this man and a partnership was forged to dupe people on a large scale when they found how easy it was to do so.
It is surprising that people swallowed the claim that only Madhusudan could see Swami and none of the thousands of visitors could do so. He thus became an intermediary (communicator is the name they coined) between God and devotee, exactly what Swami had banged Narasimhamurthy for even daring to bring up some years ago. If that were not enough, now they openly began soliciting for funds. This was again something that Swami was vehemently against. It is most disturbing that this duo could continue to flout Swami’s teachings and yet appear to flourish. It is time that visitors to Muddenahalli woke to this dubious trickery and refused to be duped.
Colonel S K Bose, May 13 2015
These
powers are no doubt fascinating for those who have never observed them before,
however as Swami has stated, they are not proof of Divinity.
SUMMARY
1. Colonel S K Bose quotes Swami Vivekananda's story of visiting a man
who was able to know the future as well as read the minds of those who came
to him, to a degree not matched by Madhusudan Naidu. He makes the point that
despite this psychic ability this was just a man. Psychic power is not
evidence of divinity.
2. He also quotes Swami Rama who met many people with yogic powers
"Sometimes psychic powers develop; you start telling the fortunes
of others and you start knowing things. These are all distractions. Too many
people, including Swamijis, have wasted time and energy on such
distractions".
3. Swami Rama also tells the story of Dr Rudolph Ballentine meeting an
ordinary person in the street who was able to tell him intimate details of
life. This person then swindled him out of some money before making an excuse
and leaving.
4. Colonel Bose then quotes Satyajit Salian's experience.
Narasimhamurthy spoke about a young boy he had visited in Bangalore who he
claimed Swami was speaking through. Swami became angry and severely chastised
Narasimhamurthy for believing this and told Narasimhamurthy that He always speaks
directly to His devotees. Narasimhamurthy did not believe Swami and as soon
as Swami left, he attempted to again convince Satyajit that Swami really was
speaking through this boy.
QUESTIONS
1. The men Vivekananda met displayed powers beyond those that
Madhusudan Naidu has demonstrated. Did these miracles prove that these men
were manifesting Divinity?
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Swami Vivekananda's experiences
Below is the
excerpt referred to by Colonel Bose from Swami Vivekananda's lecture ‘The Powers of the Mind’ in which he
narrates his experiences with people who demonstrate powers similar to and even
beyond what Madhusudan Naidu has shown:
I once heard of a man who, if any one went to him with questions in his mind, would answer them immediately; and I was also informed that he foretold events. I was curious and went to see him with a few friends. We each had something in our minds to ask, and, to avoid mistakes, we wrote down our questions and put them in our pockets. As soon as the man saw one of us, he repeated our questions and gave the answers to them. Then he wrote something on paper, which he folded up, asked me to sign on the back, and said, "Don't look at it; put it in your pocket and keep it there till I ask for it again." And so on to each one of us. He next told us about some events that would happen to us in the future. Then he said, "Now, think of a word or a sentence, from any language you like." I thought of a long sentence from Sanskrit, a language of which he was entirely ignorant. "Now, take out the paper from your pocket," he said. The Sanskrit sentence was written there! He had written it an hour before with the remark, "In confirmation of what I have written, this man will think of this sentence." It was correct. Another of us who had been given a similar paper which he had signed and placed in his pocket, was also asked to think of a sentence. He thought of a sentence in Arabic, which it was still less possible for the man to know; it was some passage from the Koran. And my friend found this written down on the paper. Another of us was a physician. He thought of a sentence from a German medical book. It was written on his paper.
Several days later I went to this man again, thinking possibly I had been deluded somehow before. I took other friends, and on this occasion also he came out wonderfully triumphant.
Another time I was in the city of Hyderabad in India, and
I was told of a Brahmin there who could produce numbers of things from where, nobody
knew. This man was in business there; he was a respectable gentleman. And I
asked him to show me his tricks. It so happened that this man had a fever, and
in India there is a general belief that if a holy man puts his hand on a sick
man he would be well. This Brahmin came to me and said, "Sir, put your
hand on my head, so that my fever may be cured." I said, "Very good;
but you show me your tricks." He promised. I put my hand on his head as
desired, and later he came to fulfil his promise. He had only a strip of cloth
about his loins, we took off everything else from him. I had a blanket which I
gave him to wrap round himself, because it was cold, and made him sit in a
corner. Twenty-five pairs of eyes were looking at him. And he said, "Now,
look, write down anything you want." We all wrote down names of fruits
that never grew in that country, bunches of grapes, oranges, and so on. And we
gave him those bits of paper. And there came from under his blanket, bushels of
grapes, oranges, and so forth, so much that if all that fruit was weighed, it
would have been twice as heavy as the man. He asked us to eat the fruit. Some
of us objected, thinking it was hypnotism; but the man began eating himself —
so we all ate. It was all right.
He ended by producing a mass of roses. Each flower was perfect, with dew-drops on the petals, not one crushed, not one injured. And masses of them! When I asked the man for an explanation, he said, "It is all sleight of hand." Whatever it was, it seemed to be impossible that it could be sleight of hand merely. From whence could he have got such large quantities of things?
Well, I saw many things like that. Going about India you find hundreds of similar things in different places. These are in every country. Even in this country you will find some such wonderful things. Of course there is a great deal of fraud, no doubt; but then, whenever you see fraud, you have also to say that fraud is an imitation. There must be some truth somewhere, that is being imitated; you cannot imitate nothing. Imitation must be of something substantially true.
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SUMMARY
1. Vivekananda describes meeting two seemingly ordinary men, both of
whom had powers far beyond what Madhusudan Naidu has displayed.
2. The first was able to see the future as well as read the minds of
Vivekananda and his friends.
3. The second was able to produce anything asked for on request and
went on to materialise so much fruit and flowers that Vivekananda said the
quantity produced would have been heavier than the man himself.
4. Rather than praising them as divine, Vivekananda says that both of
these were just ordinary men and that such things were commonplace - he saw
many people who could do the same things.
5. This illustrates Swami's point that so called miracles are not
miracles nor are they any proof of Divinity.
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Howard Murphet's testimony
Howard Murphet,
in his famous book, Man of Miracles, describes
the dangers inherent in the kind of communication phenomena that Madhusudan
Naidu claims to practice:
Other psychic happenings reported from here and there include automatic writing, and written messages seen by clairvoyants either in rangoli powder or on plain walls and ceilings. These messages purport to be from Sai Baba. The people closely concerned with such phenomena (at least the ones I have personally met) seem sincere and high-minded. They describe enthusiastically how the messages are used to help the sick, to give ethical training in action and habit, to assist people in distress concerning their personal relationships, their jobs, and so on. So the power at work seems to be a good, compassionate one.
But there is, of course, a danger in communication phenomena. For one thing, as occultists know, the lower astral plane contains plenty of impostors, pretenders and worse, ever ready to seize a chance of communicating with this world. Therefore psychic forces not so good, not so benevolent, might easily begin to manifest under the guise of the great spiritual name. Thus people may be fooled and misled. And the eventual result would be to foster man's pride, egotism and lower desires rather than his higher spiritual aspirations.
There were indications that greed and desire for
notoriety were already being stirred among followers when a notice appeared in
the ashram magazine, under the direction of Baba. The notice said: "Some
persons misuse the name of Baba, and announce that Baba is in communication
with them, giving them messages, answering questions and granting interviews,
their object being to earn money or fame." The notice goes on to say that
such phenomena have to be explained either as the manifestation of spirits or
as sheer fakes by cranks or crooks: "It is the duty of devotees to stop
all such trickery by wise counsel and firm denial."
Baba makes it clear that recipient must judge the genuineness of any psychic happenings for themselves, but they should never use them as a means of drawing a crowd around for publicity, fame or making money.
Sai Baba Man of Miracles, pp147-148:
http://www.saicenter.us/books/Sathya_Sai_Books1/Sai%20Baba%20Man%20of%20Miracles.pdf
We recall
again Swami's words in the book, Sri Sathya
Sai Anandadayi:
Evil spirits have slightly greater strength than man. With this extra strength, they have the power to masquerade themselves as Gods. (Do not get cheated by these spirits. Beware!).
Sri Sathya Sai Anandadayi, p.292 or http://scriptures.ru/jws_exc.htm
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SUMMARY
1. Howard speaks about seemingly good and sincere people who had
messages purporting to be from Sri Sathya Sai Baba appearing on their walls.
2. These messages were "used to help the sick, to give
ethical training in action and habit, to assist people in distress concerning
their personal relationships, their jobs, and so on. So the power at work
seems to be a good, compassionate one".
3. He warns that there is a danger in communication phenomena because
we don't know what is communicating with us. There are many low or evil
spirits who will pretend to be a great spiritual being with the result that
these phenomena end up fostering man's pride, egotism and lower
desires rather than his higher spiritual aspirations.
4. Howard tells us that despite the
apparent sincerity of the people connected with these phenomena, soon after
Swami issued a warning in Sanathana Sarathi to say:
5. "Some persons misuse the name of
Baba, and announce that Baba is in communication with them, giving them
messages, answering questions and granting interviews, their object being to
earn money or fame." The notice goes on to say that such phenomena have
to be explained either as the manifestation of spirits or as sheer fakes by
cranks or crooks: "It is the duty of devotees to stop all such trickery
by wise counsel and firm denial."
QUESTIONS
1. How do we know that this isn't what is happening at Muddenahalli?
2. Howard says that the eventual result of these false manifestations
is pride and egotism. Are the messages being conveyed by Madhusudan Naidu
fostering pride and ego?
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False predictions
Earth changes prophecies
In the late 1980's, prophecies were attributed to Swami claiming
that there would be great disasters preceding a transition into the new age. These
prophecies claimed that wars, conflicts and natural disasters would kill those
who were not able to move into the new age because their consciousness was not
high enough, leaving only the chosen who were of a higher consciousness.
Recently Madhusudan Naidu has been making similar predictions:
All this evil will vanish by destroying itself. Those who
cannot get into the next age, they will perish before they can come in. If they
don’t destroy themselves, nature will destroy them.
Master's Divine Command, Kuala Lumpur, March 13,
2015
The below statements were made by Madhusudan Naidu in Italy
in April 2015.
I am now preaching that each one must realise their Divinity. In times to come, the Divinity inside will start rising and many people around the world will preach the truth that all are One. Those who cannot understand this truth will perish, just as some plants perish when the seasons change.
Those who follow the path of dharma, will be protected
by dharma. In every age, in every time, there were
some people who were good and others who were not. It has never happened that
the entire world was only full of goodness. Therefore, more and more people
will become better, become spiritual, and that is the Golden Age…
We are in a period of transition. Just as day moves into night and night moves into day, the dark night of the Kali Age is coming to an end. However, just as the night is the darkest before the dawn, so there is so much evil at this point in time. Evil will destroy itself as per the laws of Nature, and what will remain will be pure. If you are not prepared for that age, you will not be able to survive there; just as when the seasons change, certain plants don’t survive. Hence, prepare yourself by becoming more pure, more selfless, and more Divine.
Madhusudan Naidu, Italy, April 16, 2015
Just as the seasons change and some flowers fall and others grow, likewise, in these changing times, evil will destroy itself by fighting, and people who are dharmic will enter the next stage; just as in a school, those who did not study will not pass and cannot be promoted.
Madhusudan Naidu, Italy, April 18, 2015
Gerald Dominick (Sai Surya) who sends out the regular
reports on what is happening in Muddenahalli has quoted these prophecies saying
that Sukshma Baba is fulfilling Sathya Sai Baba’s prophecies. After the
disastrous loss of life in the Nepal earthquakes earlier this year he remarked
in his emails:
Himalayas - It was said that near the end of his mission that the Himalayas will shrink. The Nepal earthquake did that.
Email by Gerald Dominick (Sai Surya), April
30, 2015
After the second quake in Nepal, he remarked:
It was said that near the end of his mission that the Himalayas will shrink. The Nepal earthquake did that. They had a second severe quake today. We are sure the Himalayas have shrunk even more.
Email by Gerald Dominick (Sai Surya), May
12, 2015
Meanwhile one of Baba’s prophecies are coming true with
the Himalaya’s sinking a bit because of the earthquake and there is supposed to
be more.
Email by Gerald Dominick (Sai Surya), May
13, 2015
Prophecy 19 on the list of prophecies from the 1980s attributed
to Baba was that, "The Himalayas will sink lower and South India will rise
higher.”
What did Swami say about these prophecies? Did Swami say at
any point that the wicked would be destroyed in this Avatar?
“In this Avatar, the wicked will not be destroyed; they will be corrected and reformed and educated and led back to the path from which they have strayed.”
The Avatars that have come and gone have all cut down trees because they were white-ant infested, but this Avatar is different and unique. Now, the white ants are removed, the tree is saved, protected, fostered, and encouraged to grow. I am not inclined to punish; I am the goldsmith who repairs and reshapes broken ornaments. Rama came as the embodiment of truth, virtue, and peace (sathya, dharma, and santhi); Krishna came as the personification of love (prema); now, the embodiment of all four is needed, because, at the present time, knowledge has increased beyond the capacity of character.
You cannot realise how much the Lord feels for your sake. His concern is over your wantonness and wilful disregard of His words, for He is interested in your keeping your hearts pure and unblemished. I am very anxious to make you all reach the goal. My task is to purify your hearts.
SSS 2. 22: October 25, 1961, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume02/sss02-22.pdf
But, in this Kali age, the wicked have to be reformed and reconstructed, through love and compassion. That is why this Avathar has come unarmed. It has come with the message of love. The only weapon which can transform the vile and the vicious is the Name of the Lord uttered with Love.
SSS 7.25: July 28, 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-25.pdf
Many people are scared because they believe that the Kali
Age in which we live will witness the ultimate Deluge. Others call it the
Kalaha Age, the Age of Conflict, for it is now well-nigh omnipresent. No, no.
This age is the Golden Age for the seekers of God, for earning and learning
Viveka.
SSS 15.30: November 6, 1981, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume15/sss15-30.pdf
In December 1978 Sri Sathya Sai Baba also answered a
question from Dr John Hislop:
H: Many people are saying that, very shortly, we will enter a period of great catastrophe.
SAI: There may be some
peak waves, as I mentioned but the world will be happy, peaceful, and
prosperous.
After these prophecies attributed to Sri Sathya Sai Baba were
widely circulated to devotees, He gave a discourse on 13 February 1991 in which
He specifically denied making these prophecies:
4. No global disaster
to be apprehended
Message of Bhagavan Baba repudiating certain reports
circulated in various countries attributing to Him predictions of various
disasters facing the world in the following years.
SAI will never do or suggest anything harmful to anyone. Some persons in overseas countries as well as some people within India have been distributing pamphlets in which they have published that Swami has stated that in a short while the world will be deluged by a great flood and that large areas will get submerged and that other disasters will overtake the world and many countries will suffer very much. Such thoughts have never occurred to Swami and will never occur. These are the fancies of some idle minds. Do not give any credence to them. In some of these pamphlets, it is stated that parts of this country will get submerged and that Swami will send 12 students for rescuing people and listing a number of points in the pamphlets. Some devotees appear to have been taken in by these pamphlets which are being distributed by mischievous elements. In no circumstance should devotees believe in such stories. Nor should they give them currency by passing them on by word of mouth. You should not lend your ears to such ridiculous reports. It is a sign of weakness to listen to such stories or discuss them.
No disaster is imminent for the world. Over the vast
globe, there may be some mishaps here and there, from time to time. The
Iran-Iraq conflict lasted ten years. You should not consider it a major war.
Even in India, terrorist activities have been going on in the Punjab. Is it a major
struggle? Some disgruntled individuals have been resorting to these methods.
SSS 24.4: February 13, 1991, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume24/sss24-04.pdf
As early as 1976 Swami answered a question from R K Karanjia
on whether there would be widespread destructive war before the Golden Age
Swami had predicted:
Q: The existing situation driven by evil forces to destruction as you have correctly analyzed it, appears to suggest the inevitability of another Mahabharata-type (an epic relating to the battle of Kurukshetra) war. Does this mean that the salvation for which you are working can be consummated only after a destructive war?
Baba: The evil must and shall be removed before such a catastrophe takes place. There will be minor wars and skirmishes, of course: these cannot be helped in the existing state of affairs. The Mahabharata war was a different issue altogether. Lord Krishna decreed it and, in fact, led Arjuna to the battlefield in order to rid the world of evil men and ungodly forces.
Today, as I told you, the evil is so widespread that humanity itself would be destroyed in a nuclear holocaust in the event of a world war. It is to prevent such a catastrophe that this Avatar has come to raise human consciousness above the existing syndrome of anger, hate, violence and war and save the world from disaster. This can be achieved only by the reestablishment of the brotherhood of mankind though the Vedas, Shastras and all religions with their evangel of dharma to liberate the human race from the chains of karma (the cycle of birth and death).
Madhusudan
Naidu gave a timeframe for these disasters and wars:
The next 10 to 15 years is the transition phase. You will see a lot of these changes happening. Not only here but across the whole world. In the name of religion, in the name of power, in the name of position, people will have different, different conflicts.
Master's Divine Command, Kuala Lumpur, March 13,
2015
However Sri Sathya Sai Baba actually said that
by 2018 the world would be peaceful as it would be the time of Prema Sai:
That is some forty years away (this conversation took place in December 1978). At that time the world will be peaceful.
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SUMMARY
1. Madhusudan Naidu
says those who cannot get into the next age will perish before they can come
in. If they don’t destroy themselves, nature will destroy them; All must now
realise their Divinity. Those who cannot will perish. Evil will destroy
itself by fighting, and people who are dharmic
will enter the next stage
2. Sri Sathya Sai
Baba says in this Avathar, the wicked will not be destroyed, they will be
reformed and reconstructed through love and compassion, that the evil must
and shall be removed before such a catastrophe takes place and that the
Avatar has come to prevent the kind of catastrophe Madhusudan is talking
about.
3. Madhusudan Naidu
says that the next 10 to 15 years will be the transition period when these
disasters will occur.
4. Sri Sathya Sai
Baba says that by around 2018 the world will be peaceful. Regarding the kind
of prophecies that Madhusudan Naidu claims Swami is telling him, Sri Sathya
Sai Baba said:
SAI will never do
or suggest anything harmful to anyone. Some persons in overseas countries as
well as some people within India have been distributing pamphlets in which
they have published that Swami has stated that in a short while the world
will be deluged by a great flood and that large areas
will get submerged
and that other
disasters will overtake
the world and
many countries will suffer very much. Such thoughts have never
occurred to Swami and will never occur. These are the fancies of some idle
minds. Do not give any credence to them. In no circumstance should devotees
believe in such stories. Nor should they give them currency by passing them
on by word of mouth. You should not lend your ears to such ridiculous
reports. It is a sign of weakness to listen to such stories or discuss them.
No disaster is imminent for the world.
QUESTIONS
1. If Madhusudan
Naidu is receiving his communications from Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why is he
spreading a summary version of the list of prophecies which Swami denied
making in 1991?
2. Since he is
spreading a summarised version of the prophecies which Sri Sathya Sai Baba
vehemently denied making in 1991, can we really believe that his words come
from Swami?
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Predictions about Prema Sai
Madhusudan
Naidu claims that Prema Sai, rather than being loving, will be a difficult
teacher:
However, the next Avatar will not be an easy Avatar like Me. He will be a very difficult teacher. He will not speak like Me. He will teach in the language of silence. If you cannot understand and follow My words, how will you understand and follow His silence? Therefore, even before the Avatar comes, I am preparing you, so that when you are in His presence, you will understand what He is saying in the language of silence.
Question: Sai Ram, Bhagawan. You said that You will stay in the Subtle Body for six more years. Can you say something to us about your future incarnation as Prema Sai?
Swami: Prema Sai is not an easy Avatar. I am a very lenient teacher. I pass everybody. Even if you write a letter, I give ‘grace-marks’ and help you pass. Prema Sai will be like a professor. In the university, you have to do your own homework. Nobody will come to teach you. You have to teach yourself. Only when you have some doubts or questions can you ask the professor. Sathya Sai spoke a lot. Not only spoke, but did all kinds of things to keep your attention in the class. I had to perform many miracles to keep your attention, just as a primary school teacher sometimes sings a song, tells a story, or dances along to keep the students still. With Prema Sai, however, unless you have done your homework and come, you are not going to understand Him. He will be a silent master. He will speak from heart to heart. That is the best language. Words contaminate thought. Pure thought is communicated in the heart. It doesn’t come through the mouth. Unless your heart is tuned to receive that signal, you will understand nothing.
Madhusudan Naidu, Italy, April 18, 2015
Did Sri Sathya Sai Baba say that unless we are prepared and
tuned we will not understand Prema Sai as Madhusudan claims?
During Shirdi Avatar, I was preparing the food. In Sathya Sai Avatar, I am serving the food... In Prema Sai Avatar, everyone will enjoy the fruits of the divine meal.
Sri Sathya Sai Anandadayi, p.66
Did Swami say that Prema Sai would be a silent, stern,
difficult teacher?
That is the Name: Prema Sai. All will be love - love,
love, love everywhere.
As the name itself suggests, Prema Sai will be full of love. He would exude love and bliss.
With the advent of Prema Sai there will be total fulfilment of the mission.
Prema Sai Avatara will propagate and preach adwaita by showing to the world that the entire creation is immanent with Divinity and that every being, everything is only a projection and manifestation of God and that while God is the serene ocean, His creation is like the waves in that ocean. Waves have no independent existence. They too are really the ocean itself, but having a separate name and form.
The entire world will be peaceful with the advent of Prema Sai. There will be no war, no fight, and love will be the governing force. There will be bliss everywhere.
From Doubt to Certainty, p.97
They are not separate. I have already mentioned the complete oneness of the three in the final objective of the mission. I will give you an example. Take a kilo of gur (a sweet substance). The whole of it tastes sweet. Next break it into small pieces. Each of them is sweet. Finally break them into small grains. You find the same sweetness in them. So the difference is one of quantity and not quality. It is the same with the Avathars.
God Lives in India, pp.6-7
Finally, Prema Sai, the third Avatar, will promote the evangel news that not only does God reside in everybody, but everyone himself is God. That will be the final wisdom that will enable every man and woman to rise to be God.
God Lives in India, p.7
When he was asked, in what form the next advent would take place, Shirdi Baba told Abdul Baba alone: “I will give darshan in the name of Sathya for upholding Truth." That is the present advent. The two bodies are different, but the Divinity is one. The first advent was for revealing Divinity. The second advent is to awaken the Divinity (in human beings). The next advent is for propagating Divinity. The three Sais are' Shirdi Sai, Sathya Sai and Prema Sai.
In the triune Sai
Avatars , the first one was Shirdi Sai, the second is Parthi Sai, and the third
will be Prema Sai. Prema Sai will bring about complete unity of mankind.
Love is the unifying force in the world. Now we do not find any unity in
the world. There are differences and differences all along everywhere. There
will be complete unity only when love manifests in the heart of everyone. Then
all will become one. There will be unity of caste, culture, and country.
Madhusudan Naidu claims that Prema Sai Baba will come after
Sukshma Baba leaves his subtle body:
I will be in this Subtle Form,
which is just like the Physical Form, without flesh and bones…. Soon, I will be back in another Physical Form as Prema Sai, who
will further guide you all and continue the work.”
Madhusudan Naidu quoted on Sathya Sai
Saraswathi Trust website: http://sssset.edu.in/devotees
Sathya Sai Baba said Prema Sai Baba would be born one year
after Sathya Sai leaves the body. As quoted by Howard Murphet:
Finally, Sathya Sai states, there will be Prema Sai who, one year after the passing of the Sathya Sai form, will be born in Karnataka (the old Mysore State), at a place between Bangalore and the city of Mysore.
Sai Baba: Invitation to Glory, p.62
Karunamba Ramamurthy (Kannamma) is the author of
the book ‘Sri Sathya Sai Anandadayi’. Her book is written from notes she made
in her diary starting in 1944. In Chapter 9, the author records what Swami said
during the late 1940's to devotees in the old temple (mandir):
The present Avatar will last for 96 years, and, after a
gap of one year, Prema Sai Avatar will assume human body and last for 75
years.
Sri Sathya Sai Anandadayi, Journey with Sai,
p.64
Swami never said that Prema Sai (Loving Sai) will be a
strict teacher teaching in silence only those who do their own research, with
everyone else being unable to understand Him. Swami said that Prema Sai will be
a loving teacher who will promote the message that everyone is God and that rather
than just a select few, everyone will enjoy the fruits of the Divine meal that
He has been preparing for us.
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SUMMARY
Madhusudan Naidu claims
Prema Sai will not be born until after ‘Sukshma Baba’ departs.
Sri Sathya Sai Baba
said that Prema Sai will be born one year after Sathya Sai Baba leaves His
body.
Madhusudan Naidu
claims Prema Sai will not be an easy Avatar like Sri Sathya Sai Baba. "He
will be a very difficult teacher. He will not speak like Me. He will teach in
the language of silence”. “Prema Sai is not an easy Avatar. I am a very lenient
teacher. I pass everybody. Even if you write a letter, I give ‘grace-marks’
and help you pass. Prema Sai will be like a professor. In the university, you
have to do your own homework. Nobody will come to teach you. You have to
teach yourself”.
Sathya Sai Baba:
Prema Sai will be full of love. He will exude love and bliss…
Prema Sai Avatara will propagate and preach adwaita... The entire world will
be peaceful with the advent of Prema Sai. There will be no war, no fight, and
love will be the governing force. There will be bliss everywhere.
Finally, Prema Sai,
the third Avatar, will promote the evangel news that not only does God reside
in everybody, but everyone himself is God…. Prema Sai will bring about
complete unity of mankind. Love is the unifying force in the world.
QUESTIONS
1. If Madhusudan Naidu is in
communication with Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why is there such a difference
between his claims and Swami's words about Prema Sai?
2. When Sri Sathya Sai Baba says that
Prema Sai will preach Adwaita, promoting the message that everyone is God,
why does Madhusudan say that Prema Sai will be silent?
3. When Swami says that Prema Sai will
exude love and bliss, why does Madhusudan say that Prema Sai will be a
difficult teacher who will expect us to teach ourselves?
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Conclusion
A test for us all?
Some devotees are asking
why this is happening. We must remember that Swami told us as early as the 60th
birthday that He would begin to test us to remove the grain from the chaff and
that only those devotees whose faith was sound and solid would remain with Him.
As He often said, "Test is God's taste." Could it be that this is
part of that testing process?
As part of the sixtieth Birthday Celebrations, I am prescribing a test which you have to accept. When you undergo it and emerge victorious, you can be pronounced as real humans. The farmer ploughs the field, sows the seed and watches the crop grow, until the grain is harvested. The next process is winnowing. The light chaff will then be carried away by the wind and the hard grain will stay. I shall start winnowing from now; the test will remove the chaff.
SSS 18.25: November 23, 1985, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume18/sss18-25.pdf
After age 60, Sai will directly give added strength to the minds of those persons who are actively working with Him. Now is starting a time of change. It is just as when a strong wind comes up and blows away the husks, leaving only the sound kernels. In these times, many devotees will fall away from Sai, leaving only those devotees whose faith is sound and solid.
Pray to Swami
to show you the Truth. Hold onto His teachings and depend on Him. We are
devotees of Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba. Before believing the claims of any
other person remember to trust Swami. Trust His words:
Never give up the organisation. Regard it as the breath of your life. This is real penance. Having this firm resolve, become exemplary leaders. This is My sole desire. Swami's love will accompany you everywhere.
SSS 23.35: November 24, 1990, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume23/sss23-35.pdf
If you follow the teachings with firm faith in Swami, you will achieve success in all your endeavours. You should have faith in Swami's teachings; love them, adore them and follow them.
SSS 40.22: December 26, 2007, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume40/sss40-22.pdf
Aum Sri Sai
Ram
Reference abbreviations
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CWBSSSB
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Conversations with Bhagavan Sri Sathya Sai Baba
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SSIB
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Summer Showers in Brindavan
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SSS
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Sathya Sai Speaks
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Recommended reading list
Sri Sathya Sai Baba's life
·
Anyatha Saranam Nasthi – Other
than You refuge there is none
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Divine Whispers
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Easwaramma - The Chosen Mother
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Loving God
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Nectarine Leelas of Bhagawan
Sri Sathya Sai Baba
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Prema Dhaara, Vol. 1-3
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Sai Baba: Invitation to Glory
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Sai Baba Man of Miracles
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Sathya Sai Baba – God as Man
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Sathyam Sivam Sundaram, Vol.
1-4
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Sri Sathya Sai Anandadayi –
Journey with Sai
Extract with focus on teachings: http://scriptures.ru/jws_exc.htm
·
Vision of the Divine
Sathya Sai Baba's mission and
teachings
· 43rd
Birthday Discourse,
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Conversations with Bhagavan Sri
Sathya Sai Baba (CWBSSSB)
http://media.radiosai.org/journals/Archives/Conversation_Archives.htm
(Conversations with Sai, Parts 1-40)
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Discourses on the Bhagavad
Gita, by Sathya Sai Baba
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God lives in India
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My Baba and I
·
Necklace of Nine Sai Gems
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Sathya Sai Speaks (SSS),
discourses by Sathya Sai Baba
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Satyopanishad
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Summer Showers in Brindavan
(SSIB), discourses by Sathya Sai Baba
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The Vahinis, books written by
Sathya Sai Baba, including Prema Vahini (Stream of Love)
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